Pond question
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EddieWalker
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The Pondboss website has more information on everything and anything you could want. Some of the same guys on this site are over there. They are very helpful and the imformation is just amazing.
When you get the the website, click on a link called "Ask the Boss." It will bring you to a discussion forum similar to this one.
Eddie
When you get the the website, click on a link called "Ask the Boss." It will bring you to a discussion forum similar to this one.
Eddie
EddieWalker
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Billy,
Nice looking pond. It will look incredible when it fills and everything turns green again.
From the picture, it looks like you have a couple of oaks that will be in the water when it fills. Is that right?
Are you worried about the roots rotting and the tree dying from being in the water? My concern was that they would die and then I'd have a dead tree to deal with, or it would fall over and be additional work down the road.
I cleared everything back from my shorline for that reason, and to cut down on the leaves as much as possible. I have one tree that will be along the shore, and it's a huge old cottonwood. They grow in creekbeds, so I'm hopeful I didn't screw up by leaving it in.
Eddie
Nice looking pond. It will look incredible when it fills and everything turns green again.
From the picture, it looks like you have a couple of oaks that will be in the water when it fills. Is that right?
Are you worried about the roots rotting and the tree dying from being in the water? My concern was that they would die and then I'd have a dead tree to deal with, or it would fall over and be additional work down the road.
I cleared everything back from my shorline for that reason, and to cut down on the leaves as much as possible. I have one tree that will be along the shore, and it's a huge old cottonwood. They grow in creekbeds, so I'm hopeful I didn't screw up by leaving it in.
Eddie
Unclebuck257
Platinum Member
When I tried to buy those sterile fish for our tanks, I was told by the fish hatcheries that before they could sell me any, because I lived in Texas, under Texas Law I would need to get a signed permit from Texas Parks and Wildlife. The hatcheries won't sell them to you, if you live in Texas, without that permit so they have it for their records.
BillyP
Veteran Member
Eddie,
I'm not sure the trees will make it but I really wanted to keep them. Not sure you can tell by the pic but there's a flag between the trees that shows the water level at running over. When the pond is full and running over, at the spillway, the tree trunks will be about 12" below water level. How long they stay that way will tell the tale? Maybe I should have went ahead an took them out but it's a bit late now.
I'm not sure the trees will make it but I really wanted to keep them. Not sure you can tell by the pic but there's a flag between the trees that shows the water level at running over. When the pond is full and running over, at the spillway, the tree trunks will be about 12" below water level. How long they stay that way will tell the tale? Maybe I should have went ahead an took them out but it's a bit late now.
Thanks for all the advice guys.
Hey Billy, how big is that pond, and if it's not too nosy, how much did it cost to do?
That's some mighty nice grade work!
Mine was about 5 grand for the whole job, but that included trucking the excavated material all over my acerage and spreading and grading it over all the low spots with a dozer, so I kind of got 2 jobs done. That was a LOT of dirt. If I'd bought it to fill in the low spots I figure it would have been over 10 grand, so I feel okay about the cost. Just wondered if I paid a reasonable price.
Anthony
Hey Billy, how big is that pond, and if it's not too nosy, how much did it cost to do?
That's some mighty nice grade work!
Mine was about 5 grand for the whole job, but that included trucking the excavated material all over my acerage and spreading and grading it over all the low spots with a dozer, so I kind of got 2 jobs done. That was a LOT of dirt. If I'd bought it to fill in the low spots I figure it would have been over 10 grand, so I feel okay about the cost. Just wondered if I paid a reasonable price.
Anthony
BillyP
Veteran Member
Anthony, my pond is about 220' long and 140' at it's widest point. It was built on a hillside so most of the work was just pushing dirt, walking it down and dressing it up. The cost was $1,540. ($70 per hour x 22 hours).
fishman
Veteran Member
anthonyk,
Unclebuck is right, you need a permit from TPWD to stock triploid grass carp in your lake. The permit can be obtained from their website, along with a bunch of other pond-related information here.
It will take about 6-8 weeks to get the permit back and then you can purchase the fish from a private vendor. Check with The Bait Barn in Bryan 1-800-845-3534, they have good prices and good quality fish. Maximum stocking rate for grass carp is 10 per acre, so two or three should do it for your lake. Cost should be about $12 per fish. With that few fish, they can bag them with water and oxygen and they'll be good to travel for a few hours.
Be sure an read the information with the permit. Grass carp aren't the answer for every type of vegetation. If you have filamentous algae, a slimy green substance on the surface of the water, grass carp won't eat it. You will need to reduce nitrogen inputs and perhaps treat with the appropriate chemical. If anyone has questions about this feel free to PM me.
Unclebuck is right, you need a permit from TPWD to stock triploid grass carp in your lake. The permit can be obtained from their website, along with a bunch of other pond-related information here.
It will take about 6-8 weeks to get the permit back and then you can purchase the fish from a private vendor. Check with The Bait Barn in Bryan 1-800-845-3534, they have good prices and good quality fish. Maximum stocking rate for grass carp is 10 per acre, so two or three should do it for your lake. Cost should be about $12 per fish. With that few fish, they can bag them with water and oxygen and they'll be good to travel for a few hours.
Be sure an read the information with the permit. Grass carp aren't the answer for every type of vegetation. If you have filamentous algae, a slimy green substance on the surface of the water, grass carp won't eat it. You will need to reduce nitrogen inputs and perhaps treat with the appropriate chemical. If anyone has questions about this feel free to PM me.
Nasty135
Veteran Member
BillyP, Hey there ! Has your pond filled yet? It would be nice to see a pic if you have one handy... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Hint hint...
Maybe revive this thread with a Question:
This is my question for anyone with a little pond knowledge...
On my property there are two natural streams of which one has constant slow flow , the other only flows in the spring and early summer ..
Now for my question , The stream that flows until the summer really kicks in is in an area that really could be damned up to make a nice little pond with an overflow, But it is located in the shade, How would this affect if at all weed growth or algea problems ? or is it better to be in the shade?
There might also be potential issues with volume of water supply in the summer which may be a problem as well.
Any thoughts would be appreciated... Just in the thinking stage and wonder if it would be more trouble than its worth??
The size would only be about 25-30' round if that and 4' deep or so... Thanks for your input
Maybe revive this thread with a Question:
This is my question for anyone with a little pond knowledge...
On my property there are two natural streams of which one has constant slow flow , the other only flows in the spring and early summer ..
Now for my question , The stream that flows until the summer really kicks in is in an area that really could be damned up to make a nice little pond with an overflow, But it is located in the shade, How would this affect if at all weed growth or algea problems ? or is it better to be in the shade?
There might also be potential issues with volume of water supply in the summer which may be a problem as well.
Any thoughts would be appreciated... Just in the thinking stage and wonder if it would be more trouble than its worth??
The size would only be about 25-30' round if that and 4' deep or so... Thanks for your input