pole barn question??

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WiJC

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i have figured out what my pole barn will be...i.e..size, accessories, etc.

i have gotten prices for the materials from cleary, walters, and lester. (and they all know i have prices from each other)

my question is this. does anyone have any experience with these as far as price goes? mainly...is there haggling that goes on to try to get them to drop the price some? or is this type of purchase pretty much one that you pay what they quote you??


also, is using nails vs screws similar to the ford/chevy type question? they do this differently and each says their way is better.

thanks
john
 
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I've got a 30X50 pole barn that I built in 99 and after it was up, I then put a concrete floor in it. Mine is nailed with those 1 1/2-2 inch nails that have screw like grooves in them to grab and rubber "washers" on each nail. So far I haven't had any major problems with the nails trying to back out that I can see,( just minor ones to date) but if I had it to do all over again, I would not think twice and I'd go with SCREWS. I say that because screws are almost certain not to back out, whereas with nails, it's more a question of "will they and when"?
 
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On the issue of nails VS screws ... I'd go with screws of proper length. One thing though, Be sure you don't deform the washer too much. Basically You just want to compress it . Not crush it . John
 
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so...has anyone who put a polebarn up recently haggled with the price? or do i just accept what they tell me the material package will cost me?

as i stated earlier, i am going to get the package from cleary, lester, or walters. ive gotten prices for each of them. i plan on putting it up w/o their help, so i am just after the material package.

anyone?

thanks
john
 
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I think you can hagle with them over price. I did that on mine, but I was dealing with an individual contractor. I'd guess that noone takes their first offer, as is; but that's just me.

UncleBuck;
I'd sure like a concrete floor in mine. It's 28 x 70. How did you go about doing yours? Any cost estimates you could share?

thanks,
Moon of Ohio
 
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to concrete the one i am putting up will cost me a little over $4000 for a 36x45. you have about 20% more sqft.

(about $2.50 sqft)

john
 
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Moon,

As part of putting mine up, I put a treated 2x6 along the very bottom, on the outer side of my main support as a footer, for 2 reasons. First, I used it to nail the metal for the sides and ends to it, but I knew I wanted to concrete the floor inside, so I figured it would also serve as a permanent form for the concrete floor too. Basically then, I just formed out the areas for the large doors at each end of my barn, with the doors wide open, used my FEL and then put about a 2 inch layer of sand down over the entire area first. Oh yeah, and I stopped by our local "illegal worker" pickup point, and hired about 3 of them that had done concrete work before.

Remember, I'm in Texas and when I did mine in August, you don't have a lot of time to play with wet concrete before it becomes "set" concrete in our heat.

Then I bought some of those little plastic do dads that hold up either rebarb or another type of metal reenforcement that you want to put into the wet concrete to strengthen it, and laid that out in one half of my barn. In my case, I used the roll out kind of metal concrete reenforcement.

I had rented the necessary concrete working tools I needed, ( all basically hand tools and no power tools) and bought several pairs of rubber boots. After that, it was just having the concrete truck bring it out here, putting that shoot into one end of the barn and swinging it slowly from side to side to disperse the wet concrete as evenly as possible, and then spreading it out over the entire area evenly while wet. I put my concrete at 4 inches thick.

I repeated that about a month later for the back half of the barn floor too. I split it up because of the heat, affecting both the concrete and me badly in August.

While the concrete is still real wet, since yours is 28 ft wide, like I did, you may want to lay in those expansion strips too, at the midway, width wise, point. Also, don't forget to consider that you'll probably want to wash your concrete floor someday in the future too, so slope it slightly downwards at each end, only in front of your door area, starting about 8 feet from the doors at each end.

We worked it to even it out, and then with the "jitterbug" to get the bubbles et al out, and the stones from the top. We then worked at smoothing off the top.

It cost me wages for the 3 men at $8.00 per hour each, for 6 hours, plus hamburgers and a soda pop for them for lunch. That was about $166.00

Rental of those tools was inexpensive, but I don't recall how much exactly. I think about $50.00. The rubber boots I bought, I'm still using for other things now.

The concrete cost me $1100.00 per half garage, delivered.

All together, I believe I figured it cost me about $2700.00 for the whole deal, (both halves). That was a whole lot better than those bids of $6000.00 and up I got from a couple of contractors.
 
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Thanks Wjic for the estimated costs.

and Thankyou unclebuck for some great ideas and pricing info. I never would have thought of hiring the help that way ...but I like the idea.
I think I'd have to do 1/2 at a time also. I sure appriciate you taking the time to type all that in.

Moon of Ohio
 
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"Green and Silver is better looking than Green and Yellow!! "

NEVER!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

john
 
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You can always haggle over price, but most of the time the compitition keeps the price down, so there's not allot of room for them to work with. Another option might be with some accesories or features. Go for a steeper pitch, another door or some gutters. Something like that.

If you're going to pour a slab from the beginning, why make it a pole barn. My next workshop will be on a slab and stick built. I'm still debating on siding.

I've been pricing metal kits and comparing them to what I can do with wood. The cost per foot on the kits is really hard to beat. In fact, I don't think you can touch it building with wood. My problem is all the modifications I want to make to it that I'm better off with wood.
 

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