Pole Barn Guesstimate?

[tractorshopper]

Thinking about building a 16' X 24' pole barn. One man door, two tractor doors, 6 windows, internal stairs to loft inside gambrel roof. Treated 6X6 posts, yellow pine (and treated where necessary) framing, T111 siding, 4" concrete slab over 4" gravel, and shingled roof. Lean-to shed roof off one long side (probably another 8'). Any ideas on cost? I'm thinking about $3-5,000. Am I in the ball park? Haven't priced materials yet, just starting to draw it up. Would probably also pipe in some openings for electrical and water additions down the road. TIA!

 

[MikeInEburg]

If you're providing ALL of the labor, I'd guess closer to $10K for materials. If you're paying for labor, go to $20K.
Mike

 

[scoutcub]

DIY Pole Barns - Pole Barn Kits, Pole Buildings, Packages, Builders, Prices

got a neat material pricing calculator, even a labor guesstimate. Looks like you're 1 state away from their "build" area.

I priced what I'll be looking for, and got several local quotes, got 1 local quote 2-3K cheaper but had to do some bartering. Haven't proceeded yet, still saving up $$$.

Good luck!

 

[LD1]

The major cost will be in the small things and how you choose to finish it.

The actual posts and framing material are cheap, aside from the trusses. The gambrel roof/loft will add a lot of complexity to everything.

Insulation??
Electric??

You are probabally looking at about $1k for framing (posts/studs/perlins/trusses/etc)

6 windows @ ~$100ea =$600

~5yds concrete $500 if you finish yourself
Gravel ~$200

I will also mention that yu may want to consider metal roofing and siding. When I did fime it was cheaper in the long run. Shingles may look cheaper but sheeting will eat you up. And T-111 was more $$ than metal as well. Not to mention metal will probabally last longer.

So whatever you choose you are looking at roughly another $1k by the time the trim and soffit is figred.

The doors (I assume you mean overhead) will run you about $300ea if you install them. =$600

Man door $100

50 amp service with a few lights/outlets ~$200

So thats about $4200 right there, And I have no Idea what you plan for the loft of lean-to. I'd say 5k will get you a pretty good start assuming you can do all the work yourself and not need to rent equipment.

I have about 10-11k in my 30 x 50 to give you an idea.

It has 4 garage doors, 30x30 "loft" with the downstairs to that finished and insulated. Only concrete on that 30x30 as well. Full electricity with 100amp service.

But I built it on a budget and did all the work myself. I rented a break and made the trim, I used electric poles for posts, made my own scissor trusses etc.

Ive attached pics to give you some idea of what 10k got me. The first two garage doors go into the finished and concreted 30x30 section with the upstairs. The last two go into the unfinished/dirt floor/high ceiling section.

 

[tractorshopper]

Guys, thanks! Useful info and good link. LD1 - Great looking barn and I like the estimate. Didn't think about soffit yet at all. I may need to factor on the higher side. Home depot has a similar unit for sale for $6k+, so I figured I could knock that down some by building myself or at least come even to theirs but have a beefier construction and slab floor instead of the wood floor they have. Theirs is built on a skid and I don't know if the floor would handle any type of real load.

I plan to do all the work myself, except will call on some friends to help set the trusses. I plan to build a jig and use it to build all the trusses ahead of time.

Insulation, electric, water will be items to potentially mess with later as additional money is available.

The metal suggestion is a good one. I'm going to look into that. My HOA has different restrictions on "barns" than detached garages, so this will be a "barn", but really a tractor parking area and storage building. The additional shed roof off the back side will just be a place to park attachments under and my lawnmower if the tractor and the Ranger take up all the floor space.

I may plan a dedicated shop "barn" at a later time adjacent to this "barn" where I'd be more concerned about climate control and proper electrical supply. My immediate need is to get storage space assembled. My wife and I are hopefully going to be building a house out at our property starting in the next month or so.

 

[LD1]

I may plan a dedicated shop "barn" at a later time adjacent to this "barn" where I'd be more concerned about climate control and proper electrical supply. My immediate need is to get storage space assembled. My wife and I are hopefully going to be building a house out at our property starting in the next month or so.

If this is indeed your plan, I'd do some things differently.

1. Forget the gambrel trusses and loft. It will be much more cost effective per sq ft.

2. Forget the concrete and stone. Just go with a dirt floor.

3. Maybe just a light of two and an outlet or two.

4. With the the size you're building and no loft, I'd drop to 4x6 post and use the 6x6 in the corners. I'd probabally even consider 4x4's.

Take the money saved from this and put toward your real shop. Your tractor could care less wether it's parked on dirt or finished concrete

Another note, I am not sure what you plan, Nor did I look at where you live, But the only thing I dont like is that my doors are not on the gable ends. In the winter, I end up with a pretty good pile of snow that has slid off the roof right in front of the garage doors.

 

[MarkV]

If you can manage to build a bit bigger I think you will end up happier. A relatively small 2 car garage is 20'x20' which is tight with two full size cars. Your Ranger and a smaller tractor may fit into a 16' wide building but you will not have much room to move around. You also mention an interior staircase which will narrow things down to 13' in part of your parking area. I think that will be too tight. If you have the open space lay out the foot print on the ground, including the stair run, and see how things fit.

MarkV

 

[wedge40]

The Gambrel trusses will be about double what regular trusses cost. At least that's what I found when I was getting bids. I agree with others in that I'd go bigger, but it's always easy to spend other peoples money.
This fall I should be getting my 32x48 built with attic gambrel trusses. I'm figuring about $30-$35K just to get the barn up. No floor up in the attic or in the barn.

Wedge

 

[tractorshopper]

Our local permit process is not required for a building under 400ft2. I could do 20X20, but 16X24 would probably be easier. I want the gambrell for more storage since we'll be building a house and moving soon. Good suggestions and I appreciate them. Think I will just gravel the floor for now since "my tractor won't care".:thumbsup: If I put the staircase on a narrow end, and if I place the doors properly, I should have enough room for the tractor to be and the ranger to comfortably fit in and still have the attic for other storage. I'm thinking with no concrete and doing steel roof, I should end up about $4k in materials and some blisters, splinters and a sore back or two.

 

[LD1]

16 x 24 should be a little cheaper. Since both are divisable by 8 and dimensional lumber is cheapest per ft when you buy 8' boards (usually)