Poison Ivy or something else?

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quicksandfarmer

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I have a lot of poison ivy on my farm, but I've gotten pretty good at protecting myself and avoiding it so I don't get it so much any more. But recently I had something happen that has me puzzled.

My wife and I went out to do some clearing. For work like that, here's how I prepare: First, I smear a lotion called "Ivy Block" on my arms, legs, face and neck. Then I cover all exposed skin with clothes -- a t-shirt, a long-sleeve shirt, overalls, boots, and gaiters between boots and pants. On my hands I wear elbow-length gloves, and on my head I wear a lumberjack's helmet with face-shield and ear-muffs.

The work we were doing was cutting brush, mostly wild cherry, wild grape and multiflora rose, and feeding it into a chipper. We saw almost no poison ivy, and where we did see it we left it alone for later treatment with a spray. Since it was August, we couldn't work in the heat of the day dressed like that, so we started around 7:30 in the morning and stopped at 12:30.

When I quit at 12:30 I had completely soaked all of my clothes with sweat, so I stripped outside and went inside to take a shower. By 1:00, I started feeling uncomfortable. I had a rash everywhere on my body that had less than two layers of clothes -- my legs between where my socks stopped and my underwear began, my arms from where my t-shirt ended to my hands, and my neck (although not my face). My gloves seem to have offered no protection, but on my left wrist there was a stripe where my watch had been that did not have a rash. The rash was unlike any poison ivy I've ever had; it most resembled a very bad sunburn. My skin was deep red and swollen, with no blisters. If I pressed the skin it would lighten under my finger, like a sunburn. It didn't itch so much as it burned.

That evening my hands were so swollen that I took off my wedding ring before bed, out of fear it would cut off the circulation. I had a terrible night's sleep. I stock a full collection of poison ivy remedies -- Zanfel, Claritin, Benadryl (pills and lotion), hydrocortisone -- and I used them all and none really helped. The one thing that gave me a little relief was a sunburn lotion containing lidocaine and aloe vera.

In the morning I had one blister, on my ring finger where my wedding ring had been. It was huge, about a half inch wide and high, but it was the only blister I ever got.

I've washed the gloves I was wearing that day several times, but when I wear them my hands start to swell and burn pretty quickly. I'm afraid I'm going to have to throw them away, which is a shame because they were expensive and I haven't had them long.

My wife also had some of the symptoms, although it didn't come on as quickly with her and she had some blistering. She also had it go through her gloves.

Since then I've been trying to figure out what happened. The only explanation I can think of is that I accidentally put a piece of poison ivy in the chipper, and my clothes got coated with a mist of sap. When I sweated through my clothes, it got wicked in a fine layer all across my body. But half of me thinks I must have been in contact with something entirely different.

To summarize, here are the things that are unlike any poison ivy case I've ever had:
* It came on so suddenly, within a couple of hours of exposure
* It went right through my clothes and gloves
* The symptoms were different -- no itching, no blisters, instead burning and swelling
* The rash was even like a sunburn, instead of being blotchy
* Laundering my gloves didn't remove the irritant

Any thoughts, anyone?

Thanks
 
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I agree it doesn't sound like Poison Ivy, reaction was too soon in my experience...I usually get fooled a couple of days thinking I dodged the stuff before it gets me:confused:
BTW where are you? Might help us armchair diagnosticians decode this one:cool:
 
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Quicksandfarmer:

Now that I am dealing with Bronchiolitis Obliterans Organizing Pneumonia, Idiopathic Type with possible environmental etiology (This means I have not sat on the tractor in over a month, and I will probably have to wait it out another month before all the practitioners involved in my care agree that anything I do will not put me "at risk"
:(! I am also very bored which means I put a lot of "air time" on TBN :D. Thank you TBN!). I am very interested in how our bodies interact with our environment. My question to you- were you also using bug spray containing DEET, cologne, and how about other areas with jewelry? It could be that the aerosol somehow "collected" under your ring finger. I have plenty of time to sit around and look at the etiology of your symptomology :). Jay
 
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I hate to hear stories like this because that situation is both scary and unresolved. You obviously have a severe allergic type reaction. I think I'd see a dermatologist about that problem. Maybe he could do one of those allergy skin tests and come up with something causing your hyper-reaction.

I just think it's sad when you go to so much effort to protect yourself and still get a terrible rash. I'm one of those lucky people who puts on a T-shirt and gloves and goes to work in the brush all day with no reaction any greater than sneezing due to pollen and dust. Your story is the thing my nightmares would be made of. You have my sympathy, and I hope you find a resolution soon.
 
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Skyco said:
BTW where are you? Might help us armchair diagnosticians decode this one:cool:

Rhode Island, right on the coast.
 
   / Poison Ivy or something else? #7  
I'd agree that it does not sound like a poison ivy response. But it probably is a response to something that you shredded, then it waffed up into the air. Maybe some pigweed? Contact with the sap is supposed to cause a photo-dermatitis. If it impregnated your clothes, this might explain it. If washing does not remove the stuff, toss the clothes for your protection.

John
 
   / Poison Ivy or something else? #8  
Where they new clothes or new detergent being used on your clothes? The sweat could have released left over detergent on to your body.

Just thinking out loud.

Puck
 
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Almost sounds like you had an allergic reaction to the creams you used prior to dressing, maybe with the added trapped body heat, your pores opened more and the creams overloaded your skin? Remember that young girl who died from muscle cream, over the counter med this year? she applied alot over her body and had a overload.
 
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Does the Ivy Block warn you against working when wearing the product. I would be shocked if it did...

But years ago after HS I was working on a horse hospital to be in FLA. It was way out west in the boonies, not anymore, and the squeeters where fierce. I put on squeeter spray one morning and at lunch had a cold cold soda. I had convulsions and past out from pain. Scare the you know what out of the guy I was working with.. :eek::D

I was fine. :D Trying to figure out what happened I read the spray which I normally did not use. But that day it was raining, the bugs where out, and we tore out an old fence line. I put on a rain jacket which made me hotter and sprayed for the squeeters. The can said to not get over heated when using the spray. I NEVER spray bug juice directly on me anymore. Clothes only.

Was it the chemical yous put on? Something different with the way your clothes are washed? Some plant goo?

Later,
Dan
 

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