Plastic Gas containers and Plastic liners in Pickups?

   / Plastic Gas containers and Plastic liners in Pickups? #41  
Instead of all these ideas like shelves that might add costs to fuel, perhaps a simple ground wire and clamp from each gas can that would be attached to a ground point at the pumps? Remember the wrist straps we were all supposed to use when working on electronics?
 
   / Plastic Gas containers and Plastic liners in Pickups? #42  
Instead of all these ideas like shelves that might add costs to fuel, perhaps a simple ground wire and clamp from each gas can that would be attached to a ground point at the pumps? Remember the wrist straps we were all supposed to use when working on electronics?

I'd bet good odds that it would get destroyed before the 5th person got to use it by drive offs. :D
 
   / Plastic Gas containers and Plastic liners in Pickups? #43  
I wonder if the spray-in liners like Rhino have the same effect?
 
   / Plastic Gas containers and Plastic liners in Pickups? #44  
I'd bet good odds that it would get destroyed before the 5th person got to use it by drive offs. :D

More likely stolen for copper or just mischief. Locally there was one station that had free air vs the quarter machines. People kept cutting the chuck off and that was the end of that.
 
   / Plastic Gas containers and Plastic liners in Pickups? #45  
I'm not talking about on the pump. Users would have the straps, either mounted to the cans or as add-ons. The pumps or islands would only have a lug.
 
   / Plastic Gas containers and Plastic liners in Pickups? #46  
The tires are conductive to ground due to the carbon content.

Please explain how I can teach that to my car. each time I get zapped getting out of it after parking during cold weather!
 
   / Plastic Gas containers and Plastic liners in Pickups? #47  
I'm not talking about on the pump. Users would have the straps, either mounted to the cans or as add-ons. The pumps or islands would only have a lug.

Awww,,, now I get it. That would require each user equip his container. If the user is too lazy to set it on the ground, what are the chances of him equipping his container with a ground strap? :D
 
   / Plastic Gas containers and Plastic liners in Pickups? #48  
Those that are simply too lazy? Probably little to none.

Those that may not be able to due to strength or disability? Probably at least some.
 
   / Plastic Gas containers and Plastic liners in Pickups? #49  
Please explain how I can teach that to my car. each time I get zapped getting out of it after parking during cold weather!

Maybe the vehicle is grounded and you are not until you ground yourself through the vehicle. Now the conductivity of the tires isn't great since they are only designed to dissipate the static buildup created from the friction of the air moving over the vehicle when driving. Have you ever seen them use the ground rod on a helicopter to dissipate the electrical static charge that is create from the turning of the rotors. If the tires didn't dissipate the static you would get shocked if not severely injured every time you exited the vehicle.

Maybe that was the reason for the ground strap hanging under the vehicle years ago because the rubber tires didn't dissipate the static.
 
   / Plastic Gas containers and Plastic liners in Pickups? #50  
I am trying to understand this and it is not making much sense.

When you fill the fuel tank in a vehicle, why is there no risk of static discharge. Where is the static electricity discharged to? The car is insulated from ground by the tires.

I assume the static is created by fuel flowing through the hose/nozzle...so the nozzle becomes charged...it that correct. Or is the charge created by the fuel splashing into the tank? Or both?

The spark is created between the tank/vehicle and the nozzle. If there is a ground line between the tank/vehicle and the nozzle there is no discharge. But there is no ground line between the tank/vehicle and nozzle when normally fueling, so where is the charge dissipated?
 

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