Plastic Barrel for Fuel

[mrcaptainbob]

You're right about that static building up when fuel moves across plastic. The fuel hoses at the stations are all grounded for just that purpose. Fuel going through that length of hose builds up a pretty fair charge. Also the reason that fuel containers have the caution of keeping the nozzle in contact with the container while filling. The explosion came when the nozzle was lifted from an ungrounded container, as in the plastic bed liners. Just as the nozzle broke contact (or made contact) is when the static jumped.

 

[Egon]

I beleive the Marine Industry has some requirements for grounding when filling fuel tanks. Just how it works I don't know.

Static can be a problem.

Egon

 

[Phred]

Guys what I meant was about 50%, its not quite that good. But it is close since the oil company sells in volume and the local gas station closest to me does not.
Its less than a buck for a gallon of off road in bulk and varies from time to time in price.

Sorry about the confusion.

Fred

 

[rrw1238]

I have 2 , 55 gal blue plastic drums full of kerosene that have been setting for about 10 years. The drums seem to hold up pretty good.. I used to use kerosene for heating and now use natural gas. I wish I could figure out a use for the kerosene. Mabe mix it with cooking oil to make bio diesel. Any suggestions and/or recipies would be appreciated.

 

[Nelson]

Re: Plastic Barrel for Fuel (old Kerosene)

I am not an expert when it comes to diesel but I believe you should be able to run your K1 in a diesel tractor. I think diesel is like 'K2' compared to kerosene 'K1'. K1 isn't as thick. I used to use K1 in my outside tank for my oil furnice here in Maine because #2 heating oil (pretty much the same as diesel fuel without the road taxes) would jell up in extreme cold weather. We would use K1 in diesel skidders for the same reason when I worked in the woods years ago.

Make sure there is no water built up from condensation. It might also be a good idea to run it through a filter before you use it.

 

[Hambone]

NHRA(National Hot Rod Association) requires all plastic fuel cells to have a ground wire attached.

 

[rrw1238]

Re: Plastic Barrel for Fuel (old Kerosene)

Yes for sure I would run it through a good filtering system before useing it. It just seems to me that No. 2 diesel which I use has a much more lubrucating feel to it. . I remember about 50 years ago ( maybe a little longer) the first tractor driving job I ever had was a John Deere D with iron wheels. You started it by pulling on the flywheel. It had two tanks on it. One was for gasoline and the other was for Kerosene. We would start it on gasoline and then switch over to kerosene after it had warmed for a few minutes. It definatly had more power with the kerosene and you wouldnt believe how it pulled. The worst thing about it was the blisters you would get on your hands from pulling that flywheel to get it started. It had a compression release but we were told not to open it. It also had a magnito. I think that was because the old engine was pretty badly worn. The best thing about it is the memories of growing up in a mans world of the time. A couple of years later I was driveing a D 8 Cat dozer for a sand and gravel company and then a scraper for a road construction job . I even had a Union permit as an operating engineer. A kid sure would not get those opportunities today. I beleive I was born at about the best time a boy could ever have been born. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[RonR]

Old tractors and Kerosene

Your post inspired me; I partly restored a 1929 McCormick 22-36, which was wife's granddad 1st tractor! It was hand cranked to start on gasoline, warmed up, then switched over to kerosene. PLUS it had a third tank for WATER. The gas tank was maybe a two gallons, kerosene 15, and water 10. You controlled the mix via shut off valves under the tank. The water mix was to add power!

Obviously I never ran it on Kerosene as it was more hassle. The tractor sat outside from day one, and hadn't run since 1945. I got it and got it RUNNING in 1987. Didn't get as far as painting it, and eventually gave it away when we moved.

The thing was a brut! It weighed 7,000 pounds. The frame was one piece cast from the base of the radiator to the differential housing. Radiator (cast with copper core) weighed 250 pounds.

Steel wheels with lugs. I took the lugs off and mounted flat rubber on the rims.

A lot of work; a lot of fun to hear it run. It had a 455 cu in motor with 4.75 in bore and 6 inch stroke, all for 36 HP. Ran about 1500 RPM wide open and 800 at idle.

Enjoy!

Ron

 

[Soundguy]

Re: Plastic Barrel for Fuel (old Kerosene)

Some of the older fords like the 9n, 8n, and 2n, had models with 'alternate fuel' designation, and were then 9NAN, 2NAN, and 8nAN.. and were the same as you describe.. started on gas, then ran on kerosene.

Soundguy

 

[ljh2]

Re: Old tractors and Kerosene

Yeah that little bit of water in the mix really increases the compression since it expands so much as it converts to steam.