people and unwanted animals

/ people and unwanted animals #21  
In my area the SPCA demands an adoption fee, I think it is $50 for dogs and $10 for cats.
They say it is to cover neutering costs.

Also if I were to bring them a found dog they would want me to pay a $100. fee that they charge everyone who wishes to dispose of an unwanted pet.
Needless to say there are a lot of unwanted pets that are dumped at the SPCA door in the wee hours.
The claim is that the SPCA is underfunded, hence the fees.

I rent a few houses and I have to say "No pets allowed" .
I have nothing against pets, just against many pet owners who just don't care.

When you walk on many nature trails you need to wear rubber boots as many pet owners take these trails to be dog bathrooms.

Nothing wrong with pets, just the people that own them.
(Fortunately not all, just some)
 
/ people and unwanted animals #22  
Jerry, I had the same luck with the "rescue" folks. I spent a lot of time on the Internet searching for the right dog, sent e-mails, made phone calls (always got an answering machine) and not one person ever responded. And their online application forms were unbelievable. One thing they all asked for was the name, address, and phone number of your vet. I didn't have any animals so I didn't know any vets in the area. We had a good one before we moved back to town, but certainly don't intend to drive that far to a vet now. But, like you, I got the impression that those folks do NOT want to place a dog; they want to keep them.
 
/ people and unwanted animals #23  
Yep, just got back from the Humane Society. We got turned down because we were foolish enough to tell them we have four barn cats outdoors that we feed /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
/ people and unwanted animals #24  
Who knows what reasoning is behind each individual, could be outdated web site. But yes you do have to watch out for scams, there are people known to collect “free” animals and sell them to laboratories or in my area have used them to train fighting dogs.

Many breeds have a very good network of folks who stay on top of things via e-mail and help find homes for our breed whenever a need arises....all at our expense. We often help in transport, housing, inspection of facilities etc and in general these usually turn out to be mixed breed or former “cheaply” bred dogs. I agree some of the applications border on nuts no doubt...the comment about a parade? Say what? I’ve seen some real overkill dumb questions on others “applications” as well and I agree in many instances it is a cover to make it look like they are responsible. When we sell a dog (and we only breed one or two litters a year if that) it will be priced high enough that people who are willing to pay that much are more likely to be responsible. We usually ask a person about their vet (and would be understanding to Bird’s reply) or ask other questions geared toward finding if the person actually knows how to care for a dog. If you ask what heartworm preventative they use, or what wormers etc and they don’t know what you’re talking about....they will never see one of our dogs because it will more than likely not be cared for. Nothing can replace experience in this case, we’ve done it over 30 years and you learn what to ask each person, and yes we have refused some people. The result is well taken care of dogs in upper income homes living better than we are, and that’s a good thing. The internet can be good and bad for dogs, it allows for any newcomer to appear legit and knowledgeable about a breed. Real breeders normally lose money on the endeavor and spend thousands in vet bills, feed, educational subscriptions and going to seminars at universities to be better informed about genetics, latest shot recommendations .......I can go on and on, but lets just say a conscientious breeder normally will have a great word of mouth following, will return e-mails, will help the new buyer on any questions they have.

The problem of strays and unwanteds is a huge one, unfortunately those who do right by the animals are the easy target for do gooder laws. Those of us who go to vets on a regular basis, give rabies as is law, are the ones targeted because they have our record of ownership. The dogs breeding indiscriminately are likely not registered and we pay because of those irresponsible owners. In my county it cost more than double to register a non-neutered animal. Now they are trying to pass a bill that would force one to spay a female after one litter. Some of us strive for genetic and personality improvements and spend thousands per dog showing and purchasing them. When you have particularly outstanding traits in an individual you want to continue on in your line, one litter would cause you to own even more dogs and would be absolutely destructive to a breeding program. It is very expensive to breed truly outstanding well tempered healthy dogs, few appreciate the effort behind the scenes that goes into it, but when we get a Christmas card with the family and dog next to the fireplace (often multi-million dollar homes) and phone calls telling how much they love their dog, and when we hear one of our dogs helped cheer up a neighbor who was in the hospital dying from cancer (through some of them being worked in the hospital as therapy dogs) that is part of the reward.

BTW...I agree with soundguy, people who dump animals need to have the same happen to them. Must be a school thing, my wife works at a school and this happens all the time there as well. I always say find a good breeder and support their efforts, or adopt from a rescue, but do not support an indiscriminant breeder who has no knowledge other than a pedigree (if that) and show-wins is not always proof of the pet meeting their intended “standard”. There are slightly differing temperaments even within the same breed, and not all breeds belong with all people. An experienced honest breeder will pick up on your needs and intent and will have experience with the lineage of their animals and be able to place the right temperament with the right owner, avoiding unhappy owners which could lead to dumped dogs....again, experience is key.
I could go on and on with this subject....but it’s a tractor board hahaha, so...never mind
 
/ people and unwanted animals #25  
That is absurd!
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Sorry to hear that -
 
/ people and unwanted animals #26  
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Yep, just got back from the Humane Society. We got turned down because we were foolish enough to tell them we have four barn cats outdoors that we feed </font>
Did you ask them why this disqualified you?
 
/ people and unwanted animals #27  
Yes, Mike, they said that the barn cats may contract rabies if they fight with another animal. This places the dog at risk.

Mr.Wurm's definition of a barn cat:
A random cat that came to you via no intent of your own. You feed and allow shelter for this cat because he hangs aroung and you would rather not see him starve. You also, take this cat to the vet if it is obviously ill or injured. (Your definition may vary)
 
/ people and unwanted animals #28  
Bummer. They mean well, but it sure makes it more difficult to adopt. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

When our oldest daughter wanted to adopt a cat, they asked us how many other animals are in the house. Um, er, 3 other cats and 3 dogs. We had to take 2 of the dogs (all but the senior citizen) to 'meet' the cat to make sure the dogs would behave. Fortunately, they did. We've had dogs and cats in the same house for years with no issues. Once the dogs know it's our cat, they ignore it, if anything, the cats bug the dogs. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
/ people and unwanted animals #29  
they said that the barn cats may contract rabies if they fight with another animal. This places the dog at risk.

Excuse my ignorance - but are rabies shots not mandatory in your state for all pets?

If a dog has a rabies shot and is then bitten by a rabid animal, then what happens to the dog that has been vaccinated?

Guess ya'll don't have any wild raccoons or skunks in your state either?
 
/ people and unwanted animals #30  
I agree that is absurd, what would they rather do, put the animal down. That’s why we have rabies shots. Reminds me of a worker in one county run agency not far from me in a very affluent county. They were not only abusing animals at the shelter, but were taking “the good ones” home for themselves and selling them. This also included horses.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( It must be a lot different up here..

I have been refused adoption by my local SPCA because-
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That kind of behavior turns me off. We've adopted a few dogs from rescues', and half way thru the paperwork, this issue of a 'home inspection' came up... Both times I slid the clipboard back to them and said I wasn't interested in their red tape, and that if i wanted to take a dog home today.. i could hit the humane society.. The first time this issue came up.. my wife wanted the dog bad enough to put up with the paperwork and inspection.. I had no part of it... and won't. My farm is a whole lot better than those animals living in 3'x3' pens. The subsequent times the rescue actual 'gave' in and waived the inspection.. ( almost seems like they don't want to get rid of their animals.. go figure.. )

Soundguy
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Once the dogs know it's our cat, they ignore it, if anything, the cats bug the dogs.

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Same here.. our 5 dogs do not even see the cats... and the cats.. well.. sometimes i don't think they even see us! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I feel more like 'staff' than an owner!! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Soundguy
 
/ people and unwanted animals #33  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( If a dog has a rabies shot and is then bitten by a rabid animal, then what happens to the dog that has been vaccinated?)</font>

In PA they recommend a booster shot, which has always made me scratch my head... I mean, why the booster shot? Wasn't the initial vaccination good enough? But at any rate they recommend a booster and quarrantining the bitten animal for 90 or 180 days. It is usually an "in house" quarrantine, though. There have been cases where rabies hasn't shown up for a year, but incubation is usually 2-8 weeks.
 
/ people and unwanted animals #34  
Dogs have masters, cats have staff, cockatoos have slaves.
 
/ people and unwanted animals #35  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( If a dog has a rabies shot and is then bitten by a rabid animal, then what happens to the dog that has been vaccinated?) )</font> In Maine it's a mandatory 60 days, rabies shots or not. I've heard of a couple of dogs that were put down because of the expense. Also, apparently the rabies vaccine doesn't always "take" in wolf hybrids; the way I understand it, if your hybrid bites someone it'll automatically be put down in order to test for rabies.
What really peeves me is that I'm required to license my dog and keep her shots up to date; and like many states we have leash laws. Yet cats are allowed to roam freely, with no shots or licensing required.
Now here's the rub; she has been attacked 4 times that I'm aware of by cats while she was tied and unable to get away.
Twice we were in Vermont; both of those times the cats belonged to the owner of the establishment we were at. (1 ice cream shop, 1 motel) The motel owner's cat actually JUMPED INTO THE CAB OF MY TRUCK to attack her. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif Like too many cat owners, they think it's funny.
 

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