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i remember in the not so long ago days.. when you looked at a pc processor spec.. it would be like pentium 4, 3 ghz etc. or AMD athlon 1.3 ghz.. etc.

Nowadays.. you go look and you see I3 , I5, or I7, and no speed specs.

Wife is looking for a laptop to run some music software and hardware.. and the software is giving us speed specs it wants. IE.. 2.67ghz processor.. 7200rpm hdd.. etc...

IWhy is no one publishingthe speed specs on the id tags on the machine boxes? ( this was at a best buy ) . I just walked thru at lunch yesterday to look.. etc.
 
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a few years ago when I thought I was a want-a-be IT person I had read about this,
hers is a copy ,
Since the turn of the century the cost of a typical desktop PC has fallen in both real and monetary terms. Almost all new computers are now also capable of performing most of the tasks that can be demanded of them, with the exact hardware specification being largely irrelevant for all but the most demanding or specialist users. Indeed, on the 23rd of August 2005, Intel declared the "clock frequency war" to be over, with the new computing mantra to be performance per watt. Or to put it another way, no longer would the speed of a computer's processor be the primary measure of its capability in terms of either consumer expectation, or the market dominance of its microprocessor manufacturer.

To a large extent, time was called on the clock frequency war because of the difficulties encountered in cooling microprocessors as they became faster and faster. However, another driver was simply that raw processing power was starting to become a secondary concern for many purchasers. By 2005, factors such how much noise a computer makes, case style and size, and a computer's green credentials, were starting to be perceived as important. And such non-processing-power measures are increasingly driving both consumer and business computer purchase decisions today.

Having said that the technical specification of a computer matters far less than it did even a few years ago, some understanding of a little hardware technobabble will still inevitably prove useful. Most obviously such knowledge is handy when purchasing or upgrading a computer and/or related peripherals to ensure that everything will connect together and work OK.

Decisions on hardware specification are often driven by the minimum hardware required to run specific software (such as a specific application program or operating system). Indeed, it remains most sensible for many users to decide on the software they want or need to run, and to choose or upgrade their hardware accordingly.

In broad terms, the performance of a computer depends on four factors: the speed and architecture of its processor or "central processing unit" (CPU), how much random access memory (RAM) it has, its graphics system, and its internal hard drive speed and capacity. Also of importance to most users will be the specification of its Internet connection. Most computer users -- and in particular those working with a lot of photographs, music files or videos -- should also think about the most suitable storage devices they will need in order to keep and back-up all of thier valuable data.
 
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just a guess as to why they don't is because the processors don't always perform as advertised. a general number like 3,5,7 just says that 5 is faster than 3 and 7 is faster than 5.
 
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The speed of a computer's processor chip (technically known as its "clock speed") in measured in gigahertz (GHz), with the fastest modern processors currently running at up to 4.7GHz. However, for most computing tasks -- including web browsing, sending e-mails, word processing and spreadsheet work -- any processor running at 1GHz or more remains perfectly sufficient. (No really guys, it does!).

Where higher processor speeds become more important is for applications such as video editing, 3D graphics work and (for the majority of "power users") playing computer games! For any of these applications, within reason the faster the processor the better. This said, people in need a very powerful computer have to be aware that CPU performance is now determined by far more than raw speed alone. Intel made this very clear when it introduced its system of processor numbers. These provide an indication of a processor's "architecture", "cache" and "front side bus (FSB) speed" in addition to its clock speed.

Alongside clock speed, the architecture of a processor is the most important factor to determine its performance, and refers to its basic design and complexity. Some processors are simply more sophisticated than others, with Intel (for example) producing "basic" processors called Celerons and Pentiums, as well as more powerful processors under its "Core" processor family. The later include the Core 2, Core i3, Core i5 and Core i7, with the last of these being the most powerful.

All Intel Core processors feature more than one "core" -- or in other words more than one physical processor -- manufactured as a single component. Intel's "Core 2 Duo" chips, for example, feature two processors core on a single chip, whilst "Core 2 Quad" processors have four processor cores. In most situations multi-core processors are far more powerful than traditional single core processors. Quite literally this is because they can do several things at the same time (something single core processors can only achieve by constantly switching back and fourth between doing one thing and doing another). In turn this means that multi-core processors can run at lower speeds than single-core processors and yet be far more powerful. A 2.4GHz Core 2 processor, for example, usually proves far more productive than a single core 3GHz Pentium processor. All of this hopefully makes it clear why clock speed by itself is no longer a straight-forward indicator of processor power, with the architecture of the processor -- and most notably including its number of cores -- now being at least as significant
 
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and still i need to see these processor speeds to see if they match up to the software specs. :)

I assume I'll have to go to each display computer and get system properties from my computer to see what windows is reporting as process and speed.. etc...

looks like if i limit myself to looking at I% and above it will be easier. IE.. any I7 will likely be faster than any I3 etc...

thanks
 
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ark.intel.com

and still i need to see these processor speeds to see if they match up to the software specs. :)

I assume I'll have to go to each display computer and get system properties from my computer to see what windows is reporting as process and speed.. etc...

looks like if i limit myself to looking at I% and above it will be easier. IE.. any I7 will likely be faster than any I3 etc...

thanks
 
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ark.intel.com

are all I# the same speed ( and I5 and I7 ).

IE.. if I see an I3.. is it assumed to be the same speed in all platforms. .. etc.. a toshiba and an hp for instance.. if both have an i5 proc.. are they they same speeds?
 
   / pc processor specs new vs old #8  
no, each chip "family" (i3, i5, i7) comes in different speeds. There is usually a 4 digit number after the processor and that will indicate speed, but you will have to look it up. ie.. i5 5587 (or something, I can't remember the numbers)
 
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deepndirt is correct-speed is not so much a factor anymore as is cores. For example a 1.2ghz 8 core processor is faster than a 2ghz quad core (with a 64 bit OS). When you have 8 cores-that means you can run 8 threads at once, quad core meand 4 threads at once. If you want realtime chart comparisons checkout Benchmarks CPU Charts 2013. There are other factors to consider as well-your PC is only as fast as the slowest componant anyway. You can have the fastest CPU on the world with the slowest hard disk and it wont do you any good. I think a minimum of an 8 core, 64 bit OS, SSD drive (solid state) coupled with the best sound card\speakers or built in sound chip you can get should be what your looking for.
 
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a question on the cores though.

say you only have 1 thread.. and that thread ( or program ) wants a 2.67ghz speed.

what if you have a 2 or 4 core machine that is say.. 2.5ghz.

the other 1-3 cores.. do thay help with the 1 thread running... or would that 1 thread still be seeing only the 2.5 and thus not meet minimum specs?
 

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