Opps, parking brake

/ Opps, parking brake #1  

bikerdib

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I remember a thread in the past about having a warning indicator that the park brake is set. Well, now I agree. You see, back when I originally read that thread I thought a warning isn't necessary because I could tell the park brake was set on my B3300; that is until yesterday. I was moving dirt with the FEL and at one point stopped on a slightly slopping area. Before getting off the tractor to pick up a limb in the way, I lowered the bucket and 3pt blade (after all, safety first) then set the park brake on the first notch. I moved the limb and decided to get a drink of water while I was off the tractor. I climbed back on and resumed moving and smoothing dirt. Then I started smelling something like a clutch disk slipping and it dawned on me; park brake!! I guess now all I can do is hope I didn't cook anything too badly. :(
 
/ Opps, parking brake #2  
On my L4200 there is an indicator light for the parking brake... it's handy and has the switch for it on the brake locking lever...
However I ONLY use the 'park brake' when it is Needed... if I have a bucket on the loader OR an attachment on the 3point without wheels, I lower that for a far superior brake...
Every time I apply the brake locking lever, I consciously ask myself, Why am I using this & is there a Better way to accomplish it... But then I learned to do this on very large heavy equipment, with enough HP & gearing to overcome the largest of brakes... KennyV
 
/ Opps, parking brake #3  
Confession is Good for the Soul.

I, too, forget to release the parking brake on my Kubota B3300SU.
It is easy to drive around with the parking brake on, especially in LOW transmission range.

I would like to have a big, bright IDIOT LIGHT flashing whenever the parking brake is applied and the engine is running.
 
/ Opps, parking brake #4  
When I had the L3400HST I left the brake on for a few feet a couple of times. and I just got in the habit of always setting the brake and always stomping the brake pedal each and every time I pushed in the clutch to start up. I never left it on again. My new Kioti has that big beautiful red "idiot" light with a big "P" in the middle of it.:)

James K0UA
 
/ Opps, parking brake #5  
Even an bright idiot light doesn't always help some idiots, namely me. My Bobcat has the indicator light and have to set the brake to get off if leaving engine running. There have still been a number of times I have jumped back on and taken off the with the brake set. Now I just set the brake harder with more force so I can feel the tractor groan when going against the brake.
 
/ Opps, parking brake #6  
I have a simple solution. I set the brake hard. That way when I forget it the tractor has a hard time moving.
 
/ Opps, parking brake
  • Thread Starter
#7  
Bad thing is, I probably ran it for 10 or 15 minutes before I realized how bad I screwed up. I usually set the brake hard, not this time; I usually don't throttle up all the way to work RPM before moving, not this time; I usually use mid range to get where I'm going to do the work before shifting into low range, not this time. All those things I would normally do would have let me know the park brake was set, you guessed it, not this time.
 
/ Opps, parking brake #8  
Bad thing is, I probably ran it for 10 or 15 minutes before I realized how bad I screwed up. I usually set the brake hard, not this time; I usually don't throttle up all the way to work RPM before moving, not this time; I usually use mid range to get where I'm going to do the work before shifting into low range, not this time. All those things I would normally do would have let me know the park brake was set, you guessed it, not this time.

I have done it countless times over cple years and probaly will do it several more times:D
 
/ Opps, parking brake #9  
I left the parking brake engaged just yesterday. I usually drop the bucket and don't set the brake but I was swapping grapple for bucket and forgot. I went a 100 yards or so before realizing the brake was set. I have thought about hanging a bright ribbon on the the parking brake handle that I would put on the steering wheel when I engage the brake to remind me to release the brake.
 
/ Opps, parking brake #10  
It is a problem with the hydro tranny as it will hold most times and only need to set the brake rarely hence no habit gets formed. Also the L does have a light but it is quite dim in sunlight so it gets missed all the time. Need a buzzer or something.
 
/ Opps, parking brake #11  
kuboman said:
It is a problem with the hydro tranny as it will hold most times and only need to set the brake rarely hence no habit gets formed.

I don't know about you, but I always set the brake when I leave the seat. I just don't feel safe trusting the transmission. Especially because my shutdown procedure involves putting the tranny in neutral.
 
/ Opps, parking brake #12  
Just get in the habit of setting the brake hard each time. If properly adjusted and set hard, you wont go anywhere. One time I set the brake lightly on my RTV and didnt notice till I started climbing a hill and thinking, man something is wrong this thing has no power, then noticed the parking brake was on just a bit. I could smell it when I stopped. Now I engage it hard when I use it. Same with the other tractors, engage hard and they dont move, engine stalls.
 
/ Opps, parking brake #13  
Don't feel bad. Driving off with your park brake on is a common acurance especially with these Kubotas. This is how I stopped myself from doing it.

[ame=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PDg6_8Wnw6A]YouTube - Park brake warning.MPG[/ame]
 
/ Opps, parking brake #14  
I've done it before and will do again. My tractor has the idiot light (red circle with a P) for the parking brake, but it lights up even when just applying the brakes so you kinda get used to seeing it.
 
/ Opps, parking brake #15  
Not great for your fuel mileage (or hourlage?), but not likely you did any real damage.
 
/ Opps, parking brake #16  
Don't feel bad. Driving off with your park brake on is a common acurance especially with these Kubotas. This is how I stopped myself from doing it.

YouTube - Park brake warning.MPG

I love your mods and would like to think I'll have the time one day to copy some of them (although I won't have the skill to copy most of them), keep up the good work. Since I just had a new DK45 delivered, my first mod inspired by you will be the 'bota basher sticker for the FEL :D
 
/ Opps, parking brake #17  
I took note of what the Navy Seals do: the double tap--for them it's the 9mm, for me the brake pedal. Everytime I get back on the tractor, before throttling up, I always give the brake pedal a double tap.
 
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  • Thread Starter
#18  
Well, it makes me feel a little better seeing I'm not the only forgetful idiot around... ;)

I've been thinking about a ribbon to hang on the steering wheel or a really bright light to add. Maybe some type of arm that when you start to drive with the park brake engaged the arm would hit you in the back of the head to remind you. :laughing:
 
/ Opps, parking brake #19  
Well, it makes me feel a little better seeing I'm not the only forgetful idiot around... ;)

I've been thinking about a ribbon to hang on the steering wheel or a really bright light to add. Maybe some type of arm that when you start to drive with the park brake engaged the arm would hit you in the back of the head to remind you. :laughing:

Trust me you are not even close to being the only one. I'll wager most if not all of us have done it at some time. The trick is to just get in the habit of always stomping the brake and the problem goes away. Yes my new tractor has a big red light, and no it does not come on when you don't have the parking brake set and hit the brakes normally, but the light is not what I use to keep from doing this all the time, What I use is the ingrained habit formed by forcing myself at first to ALWAYS press the brake when starting or taking off. It happened so many times on my last tractor (the Kubota) that I just decided to force this habit on myself. Do this forced brake stomp thing for 2 weeks. and your problem will evaporate...poof!:)

James K0UA
 
/ Opps, parking brake #20  
I love your mods and would like to think I'll have the time one day to copy some of them (although I won't have the skill to copy most of them), keep up the good work. Since I just had a new DK45 delivered, my first mod inspired by you will be the 'bota basher sticker for the FEL :D

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed seeing my idiot light mod and some of my other mods. Don't worry about the Kioti Killer sign. It had nothing to do with Kioti as such other than the fact Kioti lost the sale to Kubota (twice) and both reasons were only due to the dealer and not the machine ;) the DK45 is a fantastic machine. Congrats and Enjoy :thumbsup:
 

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