opinion on tools

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roxynoodle

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I am in need of larger metric sockets and wrenches for my tractor. I received a flyer from Harbor Freight last week that had a 3/4 inch metric socket set for $49. My neighbor says I don't need a 3/4" socket set, to look for a 1/2" set. HF doesn't have one. I liked the price but then again the tools may be junk? Does anyone have an opinion about the quality of the HF set (said the make is Pittsburg) or whether a 3/4" socket set is too big? I should probably start accumulating my own tools for my tractor. So far I've been using the neighbor's, though of course his are really nice Snap-On ones:D
 
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I've gotten some pretty good stuff at HF and I've gotten some real junk. I'm leery about their hand tools. It's been my observation that, other than the occasional "factory reconditioned" power tool, all the brands, "Chicago Electric", "Chicago Pneumatic", "Pittsburg", etc. are their own house brands for Chinese (?) imports and the quality is very "hit or miss".

My policy for buying tools, both power and hand, is to only cry once. Pay the price for good quality tools that you won't have to replace when they break the first time you hit a tough job. It's very annoying to interrupt a task for a trip to the hardware store to replace a split socket.

You probably don't need the most expensive, top line, professional grade, but they are nice to use. Just don't drop too far down the quality ladder. I always leaned toward the Sears Craftsman line for wrenches. But that was many years ago and I can't comment on what the quality of their hand tools might be today.

I'll admit that I've little experience twisting wrenches specifically on a tractor, but I am getting a little now. I'd guess that it's likely that a 1/2 drive will handle a large majority of what you need to do. Heck, even a 3/8 drive may handle a big chunk of it. But unless you're going to be doing some real heavy disassembly work, I'll vote with your neighbor. I think a 3/4 drive is overkill; an unnecessary expense, too big and bulky for much of what you'll be doing, and will encourage you to overtorque the smaller fasteners. You'll know what I mean the first time you snap the head off a 10 or 12 mm bolt using that huge ratchet. For the BIG stuff, I'd go with a few open end, box end or combination wrenches in the sizes you need.

These are just my personal prejudices. If contradicted by someone who has spent years up to his/her elbows in tractor guts, don't hesitate to ignore what I've said.
 
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I'm not a big fan of Sears on too many things anymore, but I've had a socket set from them for over a decade without one breaking. Before I spend any money on sockets from HF, I'd look at Rigid and Home Depot, Kobalt and Lowes, Craftsman at Sears and even Tractor Supply. My half inch impact sockets are from Napa. Got a great deal for a full set of standard impact sockets that have really proven there worth.

The first time you have a socket break on you, you'll realize that you didn't get a good deal with Harbor Freight. Like Tom said, some of there stuff is a great deal, but some is pure junk.

Tools should last your lifetime. It's cheaper to spend more up front for some good ones, than to not be able to fix your project and have to go buy replacement tools, or get hurt when a cheap tool fails.

Also make sure not to use regular sockets in an impact wrench. There is a huge difference between the two.

Good luck,
Eddie
 
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I already have a 3/8 socket set with a complete set of small metric sockets. It is the larger sockets I am lacking. I also have a HF 1/2" heavy duty drill that has turned out to be my favorite drill. Cost just under $30 and it is the ONLY drill I've used that can penetrate the ancient oak my house and old barns are built of. I had borrowed my neighbor's nice Makita hammer drill and it would not put screws in these studs with or without the hammer feature but that cheap Chicago drill does it. If it breaks, I will buy another one. From looking online tonight at 1/2" socket sets it appears the sockets those come with are mostly included in my 3/8" set. So I think a 3/4" set is in order after all.
 
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I have used and abused my tools - 8 years maintaining CJ7 as a daily driver - and from my experience sockets last forever (mine are from cheap auto store chain Track Auto) but ratchets come and go. Dont like Crafstsman for no particular reason, from HF I have brake line wrenches - flange I think they are called - they are good for technical work, but would never use them when I have to apply my 232 pounds on them:)

Got great rachet wrenches from Costco - SAE and metric - love them. I am actually changing my whole wrenching approach around those.

BTW, you americans :) , when are you gonna finally ditch the old inch system for the metric? SAE is such an incredible mess:)

Nothing like a littel flame war, what do you think?:D
 
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czechsonofagun said:
BTW, you americans :) , when are you gonna finally ditch the old inch system for the metric? SAE is such an incredible mess:)

Nothing like a littel flame war, what do you think?:D

Yeah, but I know how big 7/8" is. Got no idea how big 22mm is.:D

Oh, eventually we'll get drug into the 20th (yeah, 20th) century. Kicking and screaming all the way, you betcha!:)
 
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I wish we would go to the metric system way easier, have you tried to figure out next size up on wrenches and socketsin SAE we do not even keep it simple. We have 32nds,16th's, 1/8th's, 1/4's, 1/2's , metric is a now brainer.

Onto Harbor Frieght, roxynoodle do you need 3/4 drive to get big enough sockets? If not I would just stick with 1/2 inch drive. As mentioned Home Depot and Lowes have tools that are pretty good and good warranty, at a fair price, I would spend my money there before HF. Unless it is a one time type tool.

Although before I post I have seen some Pittsburgh wrenches that seemed to be good, I buy tarps and plastic ties at HF.

steve
 
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I've bought a lot of Harbor Freight tools, and they are generally a good buy, if they're not tools that you use often. I've bought a few sets of Harbor Freight pliers and screwdrivers that I keep in various areas of my farm so that I have quick, easy access to them. The Harbor Freight hand tools are OK, if they don't get heavy or frequent use, but when I need something that I use more often, and need to be more rugged, I usually go a step better than Harbor Frieght. I got a large Kobalt socket set from Lowes that I really like. I have used and abused this set, and it's holding up very well.
 
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I'm a math teacher, and I agree it is time to switch to metric.

I will also check out HD, Lowes and Menards to see what they have for me. I may need 1/2" and 3/4" for everything on my tractor; at least that is what a Yanmar dealer I know told me.

On a side note, I found it rather humorous that the local JD dealer couldn't make me a hydraulic hose with metric fittings. They acted like I handed them something from another planet. I guess those JD tractors Yanmar has made for them are all SAE. When I searched online for information on my Kanzaki loader I also learned they make a lot of the loaders for JD. Really, it is amazing how other countries are catering to our refusal to go metric.
 

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