OK, How About B7500 vs. B2410?

TresCrows · Mar 15, 2001

I heard that Wheeldog!!! Just kidding -lol. I think our friend really just needs the BX and he is going out of control!--but---if I was going to go out of control and purchase a unit that is way more than I need and will not get in all the tight places and mow them I would get the excellent 2400/2410. It has a displacemnt advantage and position control and is wider and thus more stable than the 7500. Really dude, take those breathing exercises and then go get the BX your heart told you to get and then put the 4000/6000 extra dollars into a tiller, a box blade, a Furest tine harrow, a lawn rake, a small trailer, a 16 foot flatbed tandem and a new Lawnboy, new string trimmer, and maybe a 48 inch brush cutter. Maybe a new dress for the wife. Goodluck.---------next------yes we BX guys are flooding the list and it will get worse soon. I have seen two new BX's within bicycle distance of my house and two more I see in a neighborhood I pass going to work. All four are brand spanking new. They will in time outsell all other Kubota units numbers wise and will turn suburbon/small acerage America into a sea of Orange (BX's) and when Kubota comes out with the position control to go in that extra slot and that new mini back hoe watch out---Bam-Bam on steroids. Prepare for the onslaught! Y'all take care now. J

GlueGuy · Mar 15, 2001

Dave,

Your situation sounds a lot like mine. We're on 40 acres. About 1/2 of it is woods, & the house area is about 2 or 3 acres, plus about 1/2-3/4 mile of trail. Driveway is about 4300'. For this I got the B7500. The 2710 or 2910 might have been a better choice for the roadwork, but they would have been a real shoe-horn job a couple places around the house & on the trail.

We now have 18 or 20 hours on the B7500, and I am pretty certain that this is the right machine. Maybe in a couple of years I might change my mind, but so far so good. I'll use the extra $2000 for beer. /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

Good luck on your decision.

The GlueGuy

DaveM · Mar 15, 2001

No matter what tractor I get I'll have to start making more homebrew. I'll be too broke to buy "store bought" beer!

Thanks- Dave

DaveM · Mar 15, 2001

No matter what tractor I get I'll have to fire-up my brew kettle more often. I'll be too broke to buy "store bought" beer!

Thanks- Dave

RobS · Mar 15, 2001

Re: OK, How About B7500 vs. B2410?/Homebrew

I'll have to start making more homebrew

... sounds like some loader work involved there /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

Wheeldog · Mar 15, 2001

/w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gifTresCrows, you've cut me to the quick! My B2410 and me cut down in our prime, by one of our Kubota brothers, no less.

How can we get you turned around and pointed toward the blue and the green forums, where you can really do some damage? Maybe you can start a thread entitled "Hey you Losers who own TC18s and 21s - check out the BX!", or something like that. (BTW, have you met JimBinMI yet? - could be an interesting exchange there).

(No offense intended to any NH owners, of course. Just being a wise-acre).

- Rob

Anonymous Poster · Mar 15, 2001

Dave,

I had the same problem which tractor to buy. I first started looking at the Bx2200 and then moved to the B7500 then to the 2410. It seems it never stops! I decided to go with the B7500 and put the extra $$ into attachments. I got the loader, tiller, mid-mount mower, front snow blower, box blade and cab with heater. I wonder about the position control and the extra hp but thought the B7500 would serve the job. Like someone else said you can't get one to do everything just get one that does most of what you need and can afford.

Jim

GlueGuy · Mar 15, 2001

Re: Position control for B7500

I wonder about the position control

This issue keeps coming up over and over. I know about the convenience, & I understand the issue. I've looked into it a little bit, & I think in a couple of weeks I will have the answer. I'm going to retrofit a position control-"like" mechanism onto my B7500. I hesitate to give too many clues, as I'm not sure it's going to work (but it is pretty simple /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif. Once I have the details worked out, and have a working prototype I will post it here on TBN. Then all those folks that bought one of the larger B-series can feel jealous....

The GlueGuy

DaveM · Mar 16, 2001

Re: OK, How About B7500 vs. B2410?/Homebrew

I'll have to start making more homebrew

... sounds like some loader work involved there

That's a great use I hadn't thought of yet!

But back to tractors... I had a short test spin last Sat. on the BX and the 7500. Hopefully I'll get a chance tomorrow to do the same with the 2410 and a 2710 or 2910. I'll post some impressions next Monday.

Dave

TresCrows · Mar 16, 2001

Re: OK, How About B7500 vs. B2410?/Homebrew

Dave, do some more breathing exercises. I cannot believe someone would start out looking at walk behinds and then convince themselves they need a 2910. Your initial post said you would use it mostly for mowing. BX, 7400/7500/2410/new-used---whatever, just keep in mind you are buying this thing for you to mow your grass mostly not build a highway or dig a quarry or hire yourself out (neighbors might like you a lot real soon) or anything like that or impress the guys on this tractor site. Imagine the look of your lawn after a big tractor squishes it over and over. Do let us know how the test drives go but remember that driving a 2910 around the tarmac at the dealer may give you a real adrenaline rush but then imagine that thing in your front yard. As a mechanic one thing I know is that the right tool for the job is not always a sledge hammer. When I size up a fellow mechanic if he opens his box and it is full of big hammers and big wrenches then I know not to put him to work on anything delicate or requiring patience or finesse. Have fun---take your wife with you, she will be more level headed, women really are smarter than men. J

DaveM · Mar 16, 2001

Re: OK, How About B7500 vs. B2410?/Homebrew

Your points are well founded but note I have not decided on anything yet! I'm just doing a lot of research. We've actually known from the time we bought this place that we'd WANT (read, not NEED) a tractor at some point. Given the limited amount of storage space we currently have it makes more sense for us to get a tractor now than to buy a bunch of specialty tools... garden tractor, roto tiller, snow blower etc. Plus most specialty tools have a very poor resale/trade-in value. This forum seems to be frequented by many folks in a similar situation and we're all free to go along for the ride. I know I welcome everyone along on my quest and I can assure you that my wife (who really is smarter than me!) is fully in the loop! Besides we're very fortunate in that we can afford whatever choice feels right.

I do appreciate your thoughts and everyone else's too but of course in the end everyone has to make their own choices.

Dave

GlueGuy · Mar 17, 2001

Re: OK, How About B7500 vs. B2410?/Homebrew

That's what makes this place so much fun.

BTW - We got our B7500 mainly for some landscaping & road maintenance. However, for the last several years we've been running to town and renting a brush cutter for our fire break a couple times per summer. At about $120/rental, that ended up being about $240/year for the brush cutter. Made it pretty easy to justify the $800 for the brush cutter attachment. I'll spend less time doing the brush cutting (and no trips to town), plus it will pay for itself in only 3 years!

The GlueGuy

campster · Mar 17, 2001

Re: OK, How About B7500 vs. B2410?/Homebrew

New guy here, also looking long and hard at a B7500.

Lot: 3.5 acres, largest flat area is ~1 acre pasture. ½-acre pond, lots of different elevations. Lots of rocks lurking just below the surface.

Don't need a mower--already have the DR Field & Brush Mower with the 15HP twin (& love it!) but will need loader, scraper, tiller, etc. for land prep. Plan to add small backhoe next year for re-working irrigation & other small (<4' deep) trenching.

Looked at BX2200 but B7500 is about the same footprint with mucho mas hydraulic juice and better loader. 2410/2710 may be too big to fit in some of our nooks and crannies--buddy just about wedged his 590 Super L here last summer.

Anybody got a 4-way bucket on these little guys?

Want to be able to put it in the pickup truck bed--am I dreaming?

Thomas · Mar 17, 2001

Re: OK, How About B7500 vs. B2410?/Homebrew

Have you check out the B21 model,for they seem heavier built for the work you have plan.

Hope the pick up 3/4 ton or better w/a long bed,and double check your wheel wells inside measurement.

Thomas..NH /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

campster · Mar 17, 2001

Re: B21

Hadn't looked at them but seems like a good design. How much more $$ are they than the 7500/2410?

Truck is a longbed F250 Diesel, probably OK.

Thomas · Mar 17, 2001

Re: B21

Last September my Kubota dealer price a B21 w/frontend loader,backhoe,tire chains,mirror.for $30,300.oo.
At that time I had my eye set on a L35 w/the same attachments.
Not sure what a B2410 w/attachments go for.

Thomas..NH /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

campster · Mar 17, 2001

Re: B21

Yeah, just checked with a couple of dealers and the B21TL is ~18,700 versus $25,600 for the B21TLB. Pricey and the local dealer doesn't even stock one for me to look at. One local rental yard has a couple of B20s--how similar are they?

Seems like a pretty tough little tractor. Lower than the B7400/7500/2410 it appears, and the sloped hood is nice for visibility.

I was just getting geared up for a $12-15k purchase but this may bust the bank. Agonizing...

Wheeldog · Mar 17, 2001

Re: B21

Campster,

I'm not so sure that the B21 is physically smaller than a B7500 or B2410 - may be closer to a B2710, if you are worried about getting into tight spots on your property. Carver Equipment's web site is great for finding machine dimensions and weights.

Thomas · Mar 18, 2001

Re: B21

I'm not much help on the B20 model and ownly seen a couple of them in for service at my dealer thru the years.
It seems the B21 has somewhat replace the B20 in my area.
B20 just one step below the B21 and a step above B2910,for the B20 for light industrial use etc..

Will the rental store let you test the B20 in there yard,also your dealer let you test the B21,B7500 etc..

If your planing on spending 12&15 on 20hp tractor w/fel&bh new,you just might have to dig a little deep for somemore coins. /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif

By the sounds you need to regroup and reconsider your check book,use for the tractor now and in the future,specifications...heck most of us have gone thru this..call it a learning experience. /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

Enjoy your quest.

Thomas..NH /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

Thomas · Mar 18, 2001

Re: B21

True the B21 is in fact more beefer which means more weight and the horse power about the same also the wheel base,but the fel & bh has more reach which means more iron hanging out there to watch,and that could cause a problem in tight area. The B21 consider for light industrial use mostly I believe...little muscle machine. /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

Thomas..NH /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif