OK Come on guys WHICH TRACTOR ???

[rkummerer]

2 1/2 acres with pond. Sand maint, rock , and snow plowing along with mowing 1 1/2 acres lawn and 1 Acre field!

Lots of projects for FEL, nothing super heavy!

I have looked at New Holland TZ-25, Jonh Deere 2305, Massey Furguson GC2300 all with 60" Belly Mower and FEL!
All three at around $13,800 and Kubota BX2350 at 12,750.

I was leaning toward NH TZ-25 with % for 60 months! But the Massey GC2300 has 0 % for 60 and it looks like a weel built Tractor!

What do you guys think?

thanks,

Dick

 

[Doc_Bob]

location and quality of dealer.
Bob

 

[Willl]

Get the green one.

 

[Bird]

What do you guys think?

What do I think? I think that's kind of like asking whether you should buy a Ford, Dodge, or Chevrolet pickup. They're all good and will all do the job, so then we're down to personal preference. Which tractor do you like best? Or which dealer do you like best? Drive all 3 a little bit and buy the one that's most comfortable.

 

[Diamondpilot]

I would seriously look at the dealers. Buy from the one you are most comfortable with. Sounds like this is your first tractor so look at thing like tractor transport if maint is needed ect. Also get everything in writing.

One other thing is do your research on tires and make them let you take it for a test drive. In sand I would stay away from turfs and R1's and get R1's/ags. I would also stay away from the belly mower. It will really get you stuck if the tractor does get stuck and bottom out. I would go with a 3 point rear discharge 5' finish mower.

Also where do you live Rick? Your area will make some some difference on what type of setup you will need on all of these tractors. The dealer will tell you what you want to hear but to get the truth talk to locals with tractors like you. My dealer tries to push R4's because they look good and that is what he stocks. R4's will not do the job on my 28HP 4 wheel drive in the snows we get. I had to go back to R1's or Ags.
Chris

 

[bjcsc]

I agree with Bird. You have to drive them all and see which one you like best. Surely they do not all have the exact same features...figure out their differences and pick the one that has what you think suits you best...

 

[ChuckinNH]

It is perhaps even more important to drive all the Scuts that you are interested in since they are perhaps the most closely matched of any class of tractors. Feel, comfort, loader controls, noise levels, attachment selection, and design are all important. It could come down to which grass collection system you like the best for example. The JD2305 is slightly larger than the rest, so that might matter too. All are good tractors, and will do similar tasks. Price the attahments like mmm, loader, etc. that you want, or might want to add in the future too since you may find a bigger difference there than you expect.

 

[jbrumberg]

rkummerer:

Welcome to TBN ! IMHO I believe that you are looking at the correct size tractors and I agee with all the previous posts. Try out the tractors listed and get a feel for the dealerships. A good dealer will save you money in the long run. There have been many, many posts about tires here at TBN. It comes down to primary use and your ground. As to tractors is mowing is your primary task I would go with a lighter tractor; if dirt ground/engaging work work is your primary task I would go with a heavier tractor. I would weight my tires or at least get some weight off your rear end to help balance the tractor. regardless of the amount of FEL work. Give us more information about your location and property. If you are mowing on slopes I would definitely weight my tires. If ground clearance could be an issue I would stay away from a mid-mount mower. If you are cutting that 1A field can a finishing mower handle the vegetation you intend to cut? Keep us in the loop and keep the posts coming. Jay

 

[rkummerer]

Jay,


Yes it will handle it if I get to it SOON I am probably going with New Holland! Both the Massey and the NEW Holland are both good dealers! The Massey and the New Holland
New Holland has exactly the setup I want. The Massey dealer has to order the loader. The 0 % financing for 60 months is hard to beat!

 

[rkummerer]

Jay,
I bumped send key too soon. I have 1/2 Acre finished flat lawn, I acre with pond and sloped hills around pond, 1 acre field (not grown up yet but will be soon ) I want loader for Sand around beach maint, Stone around pound (finish work and maint, snow plowing 100 ft double driveway and turn around and light mulch hauling! Both tractors weigh about the same 1300 (even the kubota which surprised me)

thanks,

DIck

 

[Soundguy]

I'm partial to blue.. but from what you've said.. I'd drive each machine and see what warm fuzzy feelings developed, and then talk to each dealer real good, and see how they strike you.

Figure in haul distance to from a dealer ( the best one.. etc. )

let those options make up your mind, as the machines you listed are probably all winners mechanically.

soundguy

 

[jbrumberg]

Jay,


Yes it will handle it if I get to it SOON I am probably going with New Holland! Both the Massey and the NEW Holland are both good dealers! The Massey and the New Holland
New Holland has exactly the setup I want. The Massey dealer has to order the loader. The 0 % financing for 60 months is hard to beat!

rkummerer:

"Strike while the iron is hot"; go for it; etc. and then send pictures. Jay

 

[rkummerer]

Jay,

Here are the comparisons, (the new specs on the Kubota is actually heavier 1322 with ROPS). I am having trouble "justifying" the New Holland over the Kubota (same dealer and a good one) @ 1,000 dollars less! Dealer says the difference is in the rear end, CAST IRON assembly and "bull" gears on the NH TZ-25 vs. Cast ALUMINUM housing and Planetary gears on Kubota BX2350?
He says it is worth the diference (salesman )

Kubota has 42 months vs 60 on 0%, but $1,000 dollars lesds is huge!

thanks,

Dick

 

[dgl24087]

Spec wise, I think the BX2660 is a better comparison to the TZ25 than the BX2350.

 

[rkummerer]

DGL,
which specs, the Kubota weighs more on the new specs. I guess the qustion is, what can the New Holland do for me, that the Kubota will not do?

I think it might Lift more in the bucket, but the New Holland site does not give detailed loader specs like the Kubota site!


Thanks,

Dick

 

[Soundguy]

Hmm.. search the kubota forum.. there was a thread a here a while back with a guy with a cast rear end on a kubota that was ripped out / cracked up..

not sure of the model..

( I know i don't wan't cast aluminum frame on any of my tractors... might as well be composite and plastic / fiberglass.. )

soundguy

Jay,

Here are the comparisons, (the new specs on the Kubota is actually heavier 1322 with ROPS). I am having trouble "justifying" the New Holland over the Kubota (same dealer and a good one) @ 1,000 dollars less! Dealer says the difference is in the rear end, CAST IRON assembly and "bull" gears on the NH TZ-25 vs. Cast ALUMINUM housing and Planetary gears on Kubota BX2350?
He says it is worth the diference (salesman )

Kubota has 42 months vs 60 on 0%, but $1,000 dollars lesds is huge!

thanks,

Dick


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[jbrumberg]

This where the companies start to skew the "data" with the Sales & Marketing influence. I do like all that glossy literature :

The hyraulics for a NH TZ-25:

Pump Capacity: 3.9gpm
Power Steering: 1.9gpm
= 6.2 vs. 6.9 for the Kubota where they probably combined both capacities.

I agree with Soundguy as to cast iron vs. aluminum.

You should really sit on both, operate both as much as the dealer will allow, and really go with your "feel"; both are good tractors.

Good luck and keep us in the loop.

Jay

 

[jbrumberg]

rkummerer: As I stated before I do collect that glossy S&M literature . Jay

 

[jbrumberg]

Sorry about the scan; I would have lost scan quality if I played with the image. Jay

 

[RobJ]

How to choose.

What's your favorite color or
iny miny miny mo or
one potato 2 potato 3 potato, 4....

Mine coule be blue or green or red. Actually with my history I would have preferred green. But the orange deal popped up on ebay and it was a good one.

It'll come to ya!!