Oil is not a Fossil Fuel

[turbo36]

This is probably due to the universe revolving around the earth!

 

[two_bit_score]

We spend billions of US dollars every month importing foreign oil when we could keep that money working in our country by developing and using our natural gas resources wisely.

Converting our transportation fleets over to CNG would be a true economic stimulus which would actually do something productive and beneficial for the American taxpayer.

It would cut our air pollution, keep our money in our country and there is ample quantity of it to provide for our needs for decades to come.


Natural gas is available on almost every street in America through a network of 1.5 million miles of distribution pipelines across the country.

CNG is the bridge to better fuels of the future.

Natural gas as a transportation fuel is a sure way to break our dependence on foreign oil and keep billions of our dollars working here everyday.

 

[EastTexFrank]

Neat info about the fingerprinting, can you elaborate on that? I find the oil field very interesting.

The oil produced from different fields is very slightly different. It's a bit like DNA, basically the same but different enough that no two are identical. It started back in the '70's and '80's in Europe where governments started requiring that all oil produced or imported had to be tested and fingerprinted.

It was done to target any North Sea oilfield that had a spill and didn't report it but principally to control ships from dumping crude at sea during darkness. Those huge oil tankers are fine when they are loaded with crude but when the oil is pumped off they need to take on ballast. So, from offloading one load of crude and picking up the next their tanks are filled with seawater which they have to get rid of somewhere. Most companies and owners have hundreds of thousands of gallons of the oily seawater pumped off while at dock and properly disposed of. That took time and money. Some, on the other hand, pumped it into the sea during the night when they were just outside of port and denied all knowledge of it next morning.

It was done originally to prevent pollution and as a way to bring the culprits to justice. It has to be updated every few years for oilfields as the composition of the produced oil can change over the life of the field.

 

[turnkey4099]

I'm glad to see some sanity was injected into this thread. Anyone who believes that a scientific theory that overturns one known and used successfully for over a 100 years would suddenly surface and be reported in some out of the way paper is...well...

If that "theory" had anything behind it it would be all over the scientific and geological publications and be a big story on the daily news.

I had a problem loading it but got enough finally to recognize it for pure bushwa in the first few minutes.

Harry K

 

[DocHeb]

"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow."

While it might be a stretch for the last part - all the dino-origin theorists haven't explained how all those dinosaurs dug down 15 kilometers into the earch before they died. Just because a theory was present for 100 years doesn't make it correct.

 

[Duffster]

the dino-origin theorists haven't explained how all those dinosaurs dug down 15 kilometers into the earch before they died. Just because a theory was present for 100 years doesn't make it correct.

Amen........

 

[charlz]

all the dino-origin theorists haven't explained how all those dinosaurs dug down 15 kilometers into the earch before they died. Just because a theory was present for 100 years doesn't make it correct.

Plate tectonics... oh wait... that theory has only been around since the 60's so I guess it's not set in stone like the dinosaurs-to-hydrocarbons-is-the-only-way theory. Although that doesn't explain why NASA found hydrocarbons on Titan. So I guess dinosaur space travel is the next 'logical' explanation for where those hydrocarbons came from.

 

[Egon]

Plate tectonics... oh wait... that theory has only been around since the 60's

That theory has been around for much longer than that.

 

[DieselPower]

Plate tectonics... oh wait... that theory has only been around since the 60's so I guess it's not set in stone like the dinosaurs-to-hydrocarbons-is-the-only-way theory. Although that doesn't explain why NASA found hydrocarbons on Titan. So I guess dinosaur space travel is the next 'logical' explanation for where those hydrocarbons came from.

Carbon is one of the most abundant elements in the universe (Carbon-12 isotope is the 4th most abundant if I'm not mistaken). It's hard to look anywhere and not find it. Hydrogen is the number 1 most abundant element in the universe.

People always say oil comes from dinosaurs and I think that is one of the big problems many people have with the "where oil comes from". Sure there's a small portion of oil that was produced from our long gone dino friends but crude oil is made from "organic matter" and not just dinosaurs.

I doubt I could say it better than this article. Petroleum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Geologists view crude oil and natural gas as the product of compression and heating of ancient organic materials (i.e. kerogen) over geological time. Formation of petroleum occurs from hydrocarbon pyrolysis, in a variety of mostly endothermic reactions at high temperature and/or pressure.[13] Today's oil formed from the preserved remains of prehistoric zooplankton and algae, which had settled to a sea or lake bottom in large quantities under anoxic conditions (the remains of prehistoric terrestrial plants, on the other hand, tended to form coal). Over geological time the organic matter mixed with mud, and was buried under heavy layers of sediment resulting in high levels of heat and pressure (known as diagenesis). This caused the organic matter to chemically change, first into a waxy material known as kerogen which is found in various oil shales around the world, and then with more heat into liquid and gaseous hydrocarbons in a process known as catagenesis.

Geologists often refer to the temperature range in which oil forms as an "oil window"å‚*elow the minimum temperature oil remains trapped in the form of kerogen, and above the maximum temperature the oil is converted to natural gas through the process of thermal cracking. Although this temperature range is found at different depths below the surface throughout the world, a typical depth for the oil window is 4? km. Sometimes, oil which is formed at extreme depths may migrate and become trapped at much shallower depths than where it was formed. The Athabasca Oil Sands is one example of this.

A number of geologists in Russia adhere to the abiogenic petroleum origin hypothesis and maintain that hydrocarbons of purely inorganic origin exist within Earth's interior. Astronomer Thomas Gold championed the theory in the Western world by supporting the work done by Nikolai Kudryavtsev in the 1950s. It is currently supported primarily by Kenney and Krayushkin.

The abiogenic origin hypothesis lacks scientific support. Extensive research into the chemical structure of kerogen has identified bacterial cells as the primary source of oil. The abiogenic origin hypothesis fails to explain the presence of these markers in kerogen and oil, as well as failing to explain how inorganic origin could be achieved at temperatures and pressures sufficient to convert kerogen to graphite. It has not been successfully used in uncovering oil deposits by geologists, as the hypothesis lacks any mechanism for determining where the process may occur."

 

[California]

The abiogenic origin hypothesis lacks scientific support. ... It has not been successfully used in uncovering oil deposits by geologists

You just took all the fun out of this thread.