Oil filter cross reference to Fram or ANYTHING?

[KansasKid]

I just bought an oil filter for my 1925 at the dealer and had to pay $9.53 for just the filter. Anybody got a cross reference for a New Holland part number 87415600 to a Fram or ANY other oil filter? PLEASE...a little help here.
Jerry in south central KS

 

[jimg]

You might try websites for the mfg of filters (eg Purolator, Wix ,etc) I recall getting this info there in the past.

 

[LRH]

Most people seem to get differently numbered filters from dealer as there are several different size filters NH offers with the same specs. 87415600 does not cross (NAPA/Wix 2005 catalog), but the older 1530/1630/1725/1925 filters cross to the NAPA Gold 1521 (21521 silver). Other filters with the same specs (3/4-16 threads 8-11 lb by-pass setting/ with anti drainback valve/ approx 2.7-2.85" seal OD/), but different can sizes are the 1348 (21348), 1515 (21515), 1516 (21516), 1335, 1068 (21068) and others. The 1515 is the standard older Ford, older Toyota trucks filter, the 1516 is the tall skinny Ford, the 1068 is older Chrysler, short large OD Ford, older Toyotas, the 1348 fits lots of older/current Japanese vehicles such as Lexus, Toyota,Suzuki, some Saabs, Harley Davidson, Saturn, Briggs & Stratton, Farm & lawn equip, even Yugo. The 1521 listed as the replacement for the 1925 fits Nissan fork lifts, New Holland , Porsche, Nissan trucks, Alfa Romeo, ect ect. Know of several people who have used these filters for years without problem.

 

[SteveInMD]

I've got 4 NAPA Gold 1515 filters and I have no idea what car, truck, or tractor they are supposed to go on.

 

[LRH]

The 1515 has a larger can than the one the one called for but will work. That's what is on my tractor this moment.

 

[KansasKid]

Thanks for the help. I did find a WIX filter that the WIX website said was the direct replacement for the New Holland. The part number was WIX 51521. The NAPA gold 1521 number goes right along with the WIX number...in a way. At least now I have a number to cross reference.
Thanks again.
J

 

[Soundguy]

Wow.. Some of my NH filters cost 30$+ each.. and the 'generics' are half that. if I could get genuine Nh filters for 9$.. I wouldn't complain..

Soundguy

 

[LRH]

Anyone who feels unsure with non NH filters should buy them from dealer, but most but not all of the filters for the Shibaura engines NH sells appear to be made in USA. I have never studied the base plates (to determine manuf) of these dealer sourced filters , but I would think most would be supplied by the major US filter co's such as Wix or Champion Industries. They don't appear to be made by Shibaura.

edit: this is not a negative post towards Soundguy; (who's posts I have always respected) Just towards everyone in general to do whatever they themselves feel comfortable with.

 

[jimg]

A bit off topic but not too much. What factors would make a particular brand X filter unsuitable? I understand that thread sizes, physical filter size and that sort of thing would be nonstarters but if it X refs to the original filter why wiouldnt it be safe to use?

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

Fleetguard makes most of the OEM filters that we sell around here. They are a really good, top quality filter. If you tear these things appart there are apparent quality differences between different products. Some are descent, some are crap. The problem is that you never know what your getting. I my mind I want to buy the best filters I can, I actually pay more to use fleetguards on my personal vehicles.

 

[jimg]

I see...so its only a matter of media quality rather than some odd design 'feature' that doesnt allow enough oil flow etc.? I would think then any good name brand (WIX, Purolator etc) would work OK as long as it X refs to the OEM filter.

 

[Soundguy]

The most expensive single filter on my 7610s is the hyd filter... it is the size of a gallon paint can... and doesn't cross to anything napa can get.

Also, just a buck under that is my 'outter' air filter. It also does not cross to anything napa / carquest can get. The 'inner' filter does cross to a napa gold number.. however, the napa gold filter is only about 1.99$ less than the NH filter. Interestingly enough, I found out NH used 3 different filter canisters ont he air intake ont he 7610s.. 2 plastic of different sizes, and 1 metal. And they take different filters.. go figure. I'm guessing that one of the other filter canisters may have better matching with local suppliers..e tc.

Soundguy

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

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I don't think that certian brands are "bad" per say, but they do have some good quality products and some cheap products. If its more convientant use whatever brand you want, but if given the choice I'd aways pick somthing thats a bit better quaity and a few dollars more since its protecting an invetent costing several thound times as much.

http://www.messicks.com/Articles/Fleet_guard_filters.aspx

This maybe an extreme example as its put together by fleetguard - but it makes the point. A cheaper filter maybe cheap for a reason.

 

[cowpie1]

One of the best filters made is the Baldwin filters. They are used by many truck fleets and construction companies. We use them on our semi trucks and have almost 2 million miles on a few of them without an engine overhaul. Before I started driving a new Volvo, I had close to 1.5 million on the freightliner I was in. Baldwin makes filters for the NH equipment also. Check out

www.baldwinfilter.com

You can look up filters for just about any piece of equipment made. You will probably have to use the dealer locate to get them.

Cheapest....NO Best Quality....YES

 

[jmi2009]

I've got 4 NAPA Gold 1515 filters and I have no idea what car, truck, or tractor they are supposed to go on.

If you try this link Honeywell Consumer Products Group - Competitor Look-up it will take you to FRAM and if you type in 1515 under competetor it will tell you what cars/trucks ect this will fit on

 

[duanekeys]

If you key any part number into oreillyauto.com and you don't get the right results you get an option to interchange.

 

[Soundguy]

wow.. big time zombie thread..

 

[djradz]

I have been using the Ford Motorcraft FL-300 on first my 1720 and now my TC40D since 1988. It has the same specs, threads, anti-drain valve and seal diameter and uses a slightly bigger can and filter media, but with the same or slightly better ratings. Price is always less than 5 bucks.

 

[ovrszd]

wow.. big time zombie thread..

Heheheheheh, never heard it called that!!! Good one. Good information though so that's a plus!!!

I go O'Reilley's and they can always cross me to something they carry. I only refuse Fram, no flame intended, just really, really bad experiences.

 

[Soundguy]

at walmart, for instance.. looking up the oil filter for my 2000 gmc yukon.. they have fram, purolator and acdelco oem filters in stock.

fram is the most expensive ( toughguard ).. next is purolator ( stp? ) and the cheapest is actually the acdelco filter.

go figure..