Oil and Stone Driveway - Comments Please

[jambx]

Great feedback everyone - thanks.

Although I am not sure if I have been swayed one way or another just yet.

I am very interested in the process tstarhr spoke about and would love to know what the process is acaully called as I have only heard the terms Oil and Stone and Chip-Seal (dodgeman refers it as Oil and Chip). Can you proved any additional info? I also see you are in CT as well - was there an outfit you could recommend or have dealt with?

Diamondpilot - the costs that were floated by me to date have been $14,500, $13,800 and $12,900 for 5000 square feet (that includes picking up 3000 sq ft of the old driveway - compacting the old and 2000 sq ft of the new base and laying 2.5 inches of new material. These # to me seem ridicules.

As for Pavers - tstarhr was right on with his summation - I was quoted $12 / sq ft for my 1000 sq ft patio a few years back so for a 5000 sq ft drive I would assume it would be in the neighborhood of ~$60K.

As for Appling Oil and Stone to my existing drive - I was told they could not due to the fact my surface had been coated with a Jenite (sealer).

I am thinking of maybe just using stone and dealing with the stuff - I didnt want to go through the added expence of outlining the drive with pavers to retain the material from entering the lawn especially since I have must have ~500 linear feet of drive.

Just came across a old thread - this too has me seeing double. Great Pros and plenty of Cons

http://ronrothman.com/public/leftbraned/i-heart-my-tar-and-chip-driveway/

 

[mikefromnh]

If you are after the rural look, I say go for the plain stone.

Plant spreading herbs such as thyme that can take the abuse as a border. In no time you will have the rustic farm look. Maintenance is easy -- just have some more stone delivered when it looks worn out.

It is best if you have a section of driveway to plow onto instead of pushing the stone onto grass.

 

[tsteahr]

Great feedback everyone - thanks.

Although I am not sure if I have been swayed one way or another just yet.

I am very interested in the process tstarhr spoke about and would love to know what the process is acaully called as I have only heard the terms Oil and Stone and Chip-Seal (dodgeman refers it as Oil and Chip). Can you proved any additional info? I also see you are in CT as well - was there an outfit you could recommend or have dealt with?

Diamondpilot - the costs that were floated by me to date have been $14,500, $13,800 and $12,900 for 5000 square feet (that includes picking up 3000 sq ft of the old driveway - compacting the old and 2000 sq ft of the new base and laying 2.5 inches of new material. These # to me seem ridicules.

As for Pavers - tstarhr was right on with his summation - I was quoted $12 / sq ft for my 1000 sq ft patio a few years back so for a 5000 sq ft drive I would assume it would be in the neighborhood of ~$60K.

As for Appling Oil and Stone to my existing drive - I was told they could not due to the fact my surface had been coated with a Jenite (sealer).

I am thinking of maybe just using stone and dealing with the stuff - I didnt want to go through the added expence of outlining the drive with pavers to retain the material from entering the lawn especially since I have must have ~500 linear feet of drive.

Just came across a old thread - this too has me seeing double. Great Pros and plenty of Cons

I Heart My Tar & Chip Driveway

Took me a bit of time to remember who did that drive... It is called a McAdam drive. It was done by Larry Torti paving. I was very pleased with his results. He is out of RI. When I had it done he was only set up to work in RI but I was able to convince him to come just across the border into N. Stonington, CT. If I wanted to have this type of drive I would call Larry and see if he will work in CT or if not who can he suggest. If you want McAdam I would start with Larry rather than talking with a regular paving company. I got quite a bit of negative comments about McAdam from regular paving places that wanted to do asphalt. You want to have McAdam done by someone with extensive experience in that process.

Good luck. And if you do find someone who does good McAdam work in CT please let us know. Thanks

 

[brin]

Great feedback everyone - thanks.

Although I am not sure if I have been swayed one way or another just yet.

I am very interested in the process tstarhr spoke about and would love to know what the process is acaully called as I have only heard the terms Oil and Stone and Chip-Seal (dodgeman refers it as Oil and Chip). Can you proved any additional info? I also see you are in CT as well - was there an outfit you could recommend or have dealt with?

Diamondpilot - the costs that were floated by me to date have been $14,500, $13,800 and $12,900 for 5000 square feet (that includes picking up 3000 sq ft of the old driveway - compacting the old and 2000 sq ft of the new base and laying 2.5 inches of new material. These # to me seem ridicules.



As for Pavers - tstarhr was right on with his summation - I was quoted $12 / sq ft for my 1000 sq ft patio a few years back so for a 5000 sq ft drive I would assume it would be in the neighborhood of ~$60K.

As for Appling Oil and Stone to my existing drive - I was told they could not due to the fact my surface had been coated with a Jenite (sealer).

I am thinking of maybe just using stone and dealing with the stuff - I didnt want to go through the added expence of outlining the drive with pavers to retain the material from entering the lawn especially since I have must have ~500 linear feet of drive.

Just came across a old thread - this too has me seeing double. Great Pros and plenty of Cons

I Heart My Tar & Chip Driveway

Jambx - Here in Georgia we use gravel called " crusher Run " I used it on a one of my driveways when we built our house 5 yrs. ago and I have not had to even use a back blade on it...I have done nothing to the road and it is like concrete right now..no ruts or anything.. Here is the key ...you have to use really wet crusher run.....crusher run is a mixture of small gravel and ground up dust like cement and if it applied when it is wet and soupy, and smoothed with a back blade and rolled..it will set up and hold up like cement..That has been my experience.

 

[forgeblast]

Around here we have a saying "they either skip it or chip it". It seems if they do not repave a road they will just chip them, using the tar and adding a layer of chips. But due to the increase in the amount of water trucks for the gas frac industry our roads are horrible, my car bottoms out on the paved road in places because the road is that bad. I hope they pave it this year, because now they are just filling in the pot holes with modified stone.

 

[patrick_g]

There are pavers with holes in them expressly for driveways. You let the grass grow in the holes and mow it just like a lawn. The pavers support the weight of vehicular traffic so there is no rutting of the driveway. They are easy for a DIY project, they look good, and require minimal if any maint.

Pat

 

[ToadHill]

Are you near the sea shore? Take a look at crushed sea shells.

 

[Redneck in training]

Try this.
Permeable and Porous Concrete Pavers - The Concrete Network

Popular in Europe for many years.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Diamondpilot - the costs that were floated by me to date have been $14,500, $13,800 and $12,900 for 5000 square feet (that includes picking up 3000 sq ft of the old driveway - compacting the old and 2000 sq ft of the new base and laying 2.5 inches of new material. These # to me seem ridicules.

I Heart My Tar & Chip Driveway

That seems a little high but you are in a higher cost of living area. Remember its a lot of work and will last you 25 years if maintained. I have been the other routes and you are lucky to get 5 years out of them with the winters we have. Makes no sense to me to put $2000 into it every 5 years and still have to deal with weeds, loose rocks, ect.

Chris

 

[Diamondpilot]

Jambx - Here in Georgia we use gravel called " crusher Run " I used it on a one of my driveways when we built our house 5 yrs. ago and I have not had to even use a back blade on it...I have done nothing to the road and it is like concrete right now..no ruts or anything.. Here is the key ...you have to use really wet crusher run.....crusher run is a mixture of small gravel and ground up dust like cement and if it applied when it is wet and soupy, and smoothed with a back blade and rolled..it will set up and hold up like cement..That has been my experience.

That will not hold up in the north with the freeze and thaw cycles. We do the same and it last a year at most before issues arise.

Chris