Notice to Missouri Gun Owners - HB545

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sdkubota said:
From the infamous words of Charlton Heston: "From my cold dead hands"

Another popular phrase by Thomas Jefferson: "The tree of liberty needs to be watered from time to time with the blood of tyrants".

"The first time they knock, they take your guns.
They never knock again."
-- Anonymous Holocaust survivor

No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
—Thomas Jefferson: Draft Virginia Constitution, 1776.

1. A LITTLE GUN HISTORY
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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In 1911, Turkey established gun control. >From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
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China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
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Guatemala established gun control in 1964. >From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated’ people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
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Consider the new debate. Both conservatives and liberal gun advocates think they can win the argument by moving it to mental health categories. Go back through your same historical process, and you find the definition of "crazy" changes just as easily as the laws for gun control. So does the definition of human.

Sometimes war is inevitable.

But, if the battle could be won in the idea arena, then it is important to teach the whole truth.

The ideas we need to win are not limited to gun rights. Though many in the anti gun crowd consider the desire of numerous guns and ammo to be "crazy." Many liberals consider a devout faith in God to be crazy. Or the desire to consider the unborn as human, crazy.

A few years ago, homosexuality was listed in the DSM-IV, as a mental health issue. Now, you are a hater or crazy if you speak against it.

The gun issue, is just one small red flag among many. Moving the debate to mental health in no way diminishes the degradation of our societal freedoms into a truly undesirable entity, bearing no resemblance to the founders country.

I agree with your views. It's the changing society that needs to discuss all issues. But it is becoming difficult to have discussion, as the conservative view has carefully been moved closer and closer to society's version of crazy.

If we don't want that to happen, we need to convince more people of the soundness of the conservative perspective, and the history of our country.
 
   / Notice to Missouri Gun Owners - HB545 #32  
There's an old saying"The Pen is Mighter than the Sword".Wonder how much truth in that?
 
   / Notice to Missouri Gun Owners - HB545 #33  
There's an old saying"The Pen is Mighter than the Sword".Wonder how much truth in that?

It is true.

Without a real fight, the Pen has helped to move the society to the left.

The Pen, I would argue, includes the education system, video (news, programs, films, internet), and printed media.
 
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I sure hope you are right, but the 5-4 decision was troubling, all it will take is to change one vote.

This is something that I have found troubling since the decision. It is very disturbing to me to think that the 2nd Amendment was upheld by the Supreme Court by only one vote! The reelection of our most liberal president ever could very well spell the end of our 2nd Amendment rights. There is a very good chance that there will be one or more replacements to the Court during this term. You can be quite certain that they will not be pro-gun!
 
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