Not my day

[robbyr]

Soooo. The tractor is Mahindra 4500. The backhoe is Bush hog 852. My FIL always used to get me to help him when he needed to hook up or unhook the backhoe cuz its a real booger. He passed away in 2010 and had the backhoe sitting on some cinder blocks but it had fallen over. So one weekend I tinker around and get it upright and took some doing but managed to get it on the tractor. Since its a pain I decided to leave it on tractor as long as I could which was about a year until I needed the PHD.
Fast forward to today. Trying to expose some drain pipe to see if there is a grease trap. Decide to put backhoe on tractor. Up and down off tractor trying to line up 3pt arms. Finally get one pin in. Had to ease forward a bit and finally get the other arm on only to find out the toplink won't reach (its a solid bar). Undo it all start over again. Backed up, got the toplink on, then ease forward and manage to get the pins in after a few up and down trips to see when holes line up.
All of this to say I probably spent thirty minutes or so trying to hook the durned thing up and then promptly spent about two minutes ripping a water line up.

 

[SanDucerro]

Some days it's best to leave well enough alone! Or let someone else do the job... :laughing:

But I feel your pain. The LAST thing I want to do is take the PHD off the L3130. It's a pain in the rear to get it back on again - heck, it's a pain to get off for that matter! The top link pin at the tractor just will not come out unless you hold your tounge just right... I must be doing something wrong, but dang if I can figure out what!

 

[robbyr]

On the Mahindra, the top link pin is very tight. Never seen another tractor that the top link pin was hard to put in or take out til this one. How do you get your post hole digger off? Mine hangs chained to a large oak limb. My dad always backed up to a fence post and chained it off.

 

[MotorSeven]

I hate tractor backhoes just for that reason. The neighbor had one & it usually took three of us a half hr to hook it up if everything went well.

As for the PH, yes mine hangs from a chain hoist attached to the shed rafter. Back up to it, swing it over hook it up, lower the chain & un-hook it...drive away.

1 ton is overkill but it will get the job done for $49:
Chain Hoist - Low Sale Prices on this 1 Ton Chain Hoist

 

[Western]

I have days like that and when I see my fishing poles sitting in the corner, I start "thinking"

I used to drill my PH into the ground and unhook it there.

 

[daugen]

I have days like that and when I see my fishing poles sitting in the corner, I start "thinking"

I used to drill my PH into the ground and unhook it there.

Man that sounds easier than trying to deal with the factory stand on my LP phd. Nothing ever lines up right.
You just backed up, screwed it in a foot or two and left it? Utter simplicity. But for progress sake let's make it more
complicated....sigh. Lots of folk have dirt or gravel floors in sheds, sure could work for me.
Maybe it's because you are from Wise County? :thumbsup:

 

[Diamondpilot]

I built dollys for all my implements and park them on the concrete in my pole barn for this reason. Just park the tractor roll the implements into place. Changes a 30 min job to 5.

Chris

 

[daugen]

I built dollys for all my implements and park them on the concrete in my pole barn for this reason. Just park the tractor roll the implements into place. Changes a 30 min job to 5.

Chris

hmmm. Make them pretty, and get a patent on that idea...pics?

 

[Diamondpilot]

hmmm. Make them pretty, and get a patent on that idea...pics?

Lots of us do it on here. I just ger cheap casters at Harbor Freight then usually start out with two 4x4's. Some scraps if 2x6 or 2x4 & some screws and wood glue and go to town.

Chris

 

[Stimw]

I have a Branson 3510 and I got a real deal on a Jinma Hoe. I modified the subframe to fit.
I back up over the subframe, connect the hydraulic lines and adjust with the Hoe controls.
For mine I have to remove the 3pt arms which is the only thing that takes up time.
Seems like putting the auger in the ground would cause premature corrosion. ???

 

[Gary Fowler]

My B26 backhoe is a piece of cake to take off, maybe 2 minutes to get the pressure off so you can slide 2 pins out then pull forward a foot or two and lower the backhoe to the ground and relieve all the pressure (best with engine off) then uncouple the hose from the backhoe, loop the supply back to the return on the tractor. Then you have to install all the lift arms which takes longer. Getting it back on is a little more difficult to get it all aligned so you can back into the slots in the lower part of the sub-frame and it has to be absolutely level and square to do it. I took it off and put it back on when I bought it to see how to do it and it hasn't been off since. It is GREAT to have two tractors so you can keep the hoe on one and do the 3 PH thing with the other.

 

[SanDucerro]

When I took the PHD off the first time (and only time so far), I drilled it into the ground a few feet, then hooked the boom with a strap and pulled it up under a cross member on an old cattle pen my dad built many years ago. Unfortunately - for future use - the old cattle pen is in the way of the vineyard so it'll be coming down soon. As for backhoes (and FEL's for that matter) - I'm pretty sure I'd consider those reason enough to buy a second (or third) tractor... :laughing:

 

[MasseyWV]

On the Mahindra, the top link pin is very tight. Never seen another tractor that the top link pin was hard to put in or take out til this one.

Back when I looked at Mahindra, I took one look at their backhoe attachment setup and imagined it would be a nightmare to attach.

 

[Western]

Man that sounds easier than trying to deal with the factory stand on my LP phd. Nothing ever lines up right.
You just backed up, screwed it in a foot or two and left it? Utter simplicity. But for progress sake let's make it more
complicated....sigh. Lots of folk have dirt or gravel floors in sheds, sure could work for me.
Maybe it's because you are from Wise County? :thumbsup:

I placed mine outdoors, dont think I could use valuable space under a roof for a PHD. It is easiest way I've found to do it. I had a neighbor put a piece of cement pipe about 10" diameter in the ground to drop his bit in, that work good too.

 

[Xfaxman]

Fast forward to today. Decide to put backhoe on tractor. Up and down off tractor trying to line up 3pt arms. Finally get one pin in. Had to ease forward a bit and finally get the other arm on only to find out the toplink won't reach (its a solid bar). Undo it all start over again. Backed up, got the toplink on, then ease forward and manage to get the pins in after a few up and down trips to see when holes line up.
All of this to say I probably spent thirty minutes or so trying to hook the durned thing up

Next time connect the hoses, and use the outriggers and bucket curl to position it.
If you don't have a cab, put a elbow on a short piece of PVC pipe, use it on the lever to raise and lower the lift arms while standing where you can see when it lines up, and push it over the pin. Do the fixed arm first, then crank the side link to line up the the other side.

Worked for me, YMMV.

 

[DK35vince]

I hate tractor backhoes just for that reason. The neighbor had one & it usually took three of us a half hr to hook it up if everything went well.

They are not all that way.
I have a subframe mounted backhoe. It is easy to remove/install.
I can remove it in 5 minutes and install it in 10. (no helpers needed)

 

[Tchara]

Ive been thinking of a BH for my branson. The dealer told me I would need a sub frame for the branson BH. Is a sub frame necessary with a 3point back hoe?

 

[robbyr]

Well I must be retarded cuz I don't know what a subframe is. The first time I hooked the backhoe up I did use a piece of pvc pipe, but from the seat I reached down and moved the three point arm over in position. The biggest thing for me is I can't see the when the holes line up so I get up and down numerous times til I get it right. I have four cinder blocks, two on top of the other two with a couple 2 x 4's. When I get thru with the tractor I back up over blocks and ease it down to get the pressure off. Not sure what was meant by Mahindra backhoe attachment setup, its just another three point implement. Pump on pto so no hoses to attach.

 

[Stimw]

Ive been thinking of a BH for my branson. The dealer told me I would need a sub frame for the branson BH. Is a sub frame necessary with a 3point back hoe?

A subframe is critical on most tractors because it protects the tractor from breaking in half!!
The Hoe on the rear puts a lot of strain on the center of the tractor that it is not designed for so the subframe adds strength and removes shock to the middle.

 

[Xfaxman]

Well I must be retarded cuz I don't know what a subframe is. The first time I hooked the backhoe up I did use a piece of pvc pipe, but from the seat I reached down and moved the three point arm over in position. The biggest thing for me is I can't see the when the holes line up so I get up and down numerous times til I get it right. I have four cinder blocks, two on top of the other two with a couple 2 x 4's. When I get thru with the tractor I back up over blocks and ease it down to get the pressure off. Not sure what was meant by Mahindra backhoe attachment setup, its just another three point implement. Pump on pto so no hoses to attach.

Mine had a PTO pump, back up close, put the pump on, use the backhoe hydraulics and the PVC pipe on the lift lever to align the lift arms and the solid top link.

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