New Tractor Owner with some questions

[WesternPABrent]

Hello,
I have upgraded my current typical garden tractor to a Kubota B2601. I mow about 3 acres and will now have the ability to plant a few food plots below my house in a large field. My question is what size disc can a B2601 pull? It is a 25.5 Gross HP and 19.5 PTO HP and a 4x4. I don't see myself using a disc on more than a few acres at a time and I'd like to get a cultipacker as well. Thanks for any information you can give. I am really a newbie here.
Thanks

 

[Luke'sScreenName]

Congrats on you new toy... I mean tool!
Your owner's manual should have a table with the max size of various implements. Start there.

 

[WesternPABrent]

Congrats on you new toy... I mean tool!
Your owner's manual should have a table with the max size of various implements. Start there.

It's being delivered Monday... I am left here to sit and wonder! I can't take the anticipation haha

 

[nybirdman]

Hello,
I have upgraded my current typical garden tractor to a Kubota B2601. I mow about 3 acres and will now have the ability to plant a few food plots below my house in a large field. My question is what size disc can a B2601 pull? It is a 25.5 Gross HP and 19.5 PTO HP and a 4x4. I don't see myself using a disc on more than a few acres at a time and I'd like to get a cultipacker as well. Thanks for any information you can give. I am really a newbie here.
Thanks

I would skip the disc and get a tiller.Disc rely on weight and the smaller tractors will struggle with a heavy disc.With a tiller and HST you will do a great job with one pass where a disc will require multiple passes.

 

[The Deerslayer]

Congratulations and post some pics when you get it. I agree with the advice on checking the manual regarding specs. I suggest looking used for the implements, but if you decide to go new, see if the dealer will work with you.

 

[Ed of all trades]

I would skip the disc and get a tiller.Disc rely on weight and the smaller tractors will struggle with a heavy disc.With a tiller and HST you will do a great job with one pass where a disc will require multiple passes.

I agree, I have a Massey about the same size and I have a 60" KK tiller and I love it. If you try to just disc a field that has been in grass for a good while you will make a lot of trips over the same spot just to break up the sod. I can make two passes over the same field with the tiller and give it a few days for the grass to die and till it once more and it is ready to plant.

 

[WesternPABrent]

So you all don't spray the fields before you till them? You just till the grass under? Would spraying help the process along?

 

[jeff9366]

I would skip the disc and get a tiller.

This is wisdom.

For a Disc Harrow to be effective it must have minimum of 40 pounds bearing on each pan. This means a minimum of 18" diameter pans and a box frame. Plus, a Disc Harrow must be pulled at 4 - 5 mph in order for it to mix the soil. Your B2601 does not have the weight nor horsepower to move an effective Disc Harrow 4 - 5 mph.

Disc Harrows and PTO powered roto-tillers are two forms of soil mixing tillers. You will be much happier with a roto-tiller behind a B2601.

LINK DISC HARROW SELECTION: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/308251-disc-harrow-selection-18-45-a.html?highlight=

 

[nybirdman]

You may want to;cut as short as possible,spray with round-up,plow with an inexpensive middle buster(potato plow)THEN TILL.
Sod is very tough to break with a roto-tiller.

 

[jeff9366]

You should type B2601 into the SEARCH BOX. Results will occupy you until tractor is delivered Monday.

 

[WesternPABrent]

You'd be surprised how little I found on B2601 in the search. I read quite a few last night...

 

[WesternPABrent]

I agree, I have a Massey about the same size and I have a 60" KK tiller and I love it. If you try to just disc a field that has been in grass for a good while you will make a lot of trips over the same spot just to break up the sod. I can make two passes over the same field with the tiller and give it a few days for the grass to die and till it once more and it is ready to plant.

I looked at that tiller and it calls for HP 25-40. My PTO HP is 19.5. What PTO HP does your tractor have? This is all new to me...

 

[jeff9366]

Kubota B's have outside-to-outside tire width of 45" to 49", so you should research 48" tillers, not 60" tillers.

 

[WesternPABrent]

Kubota B's have outside-to-outside tire width of 45" to 49", so you should research 48" tillers, not 60" tillers.

Thanks! I know I sound like an idiot, but I don't have anyone to ask...

 

[jeff9366]

All of us seem to be idiots from time to time.

 

[Ed of all trades]

I looked at that tiller and it calls for HP 25-40. My PTO HP is 19.5. What PTO HP does your tractor have? This is all new to me...

My little massey has a little over 18 hp. As I said I run it around 1500 rpm and to run the pto at 540 I would run it at 2500 so you can see that I have plenty of power.

 

[Gary Fowler]

I cant see that tillers take a lot of power to turn. IF you go slow, which is what you need to do to allow the tiller tines to work the soil, there is very little strain on the tractor. Your limit on size is going to be the Kubota manufacturer limit on 3 PH weight. This might limit you to a 48" tiller because of the tiller weight but HP wise I would bet you could turn a 60" easily.
Just look at the walk behind kind that are typically about 24" wide and have 5-6 HP engines. Never do those engines stall at all. So if a 5 HP can pull a 24" then 10 HP should turn a 48" and 15HP should turn a 72".

Anyone with a small tractor and tiller care to refute my logic on power requirements, go for it.

 

[WesternPABrent]

I cant see that tillers take a lot of power to turn. IF you go slow, which is what you need to do to allow the tiller tines to work the soil, there is very little strain on the tractor. Your limit on size is going to be the Kubota manufacturer limit on 3 PH weight. This might limit you to a 48" tiller because of the tiller weight but HP wise I would bet you could turn a 60" easily.
Just look at the walk behind kind that are typically about 24" wide and have 5-6 HP engines. Never do those engines stall at all. So if a 5 HP can pull a 24" then 10 HP should turn a 48" and 15HP should turn a 72".

Anyone with a small tractor and tiller care to refute my logic on power requirements, go for it.

The weight limit on the B2601 is 1808lb at lift point and 1411lb 24" behind lift point. What does this mean?

 

[CobyRupert]

The weight limit on the B2601 is 1808lb at lift point and 1411lb 24" behind lift point. What does this mean?

The lift point probably refers to the location that the implement attaches, at the pins on the 3pth. 1806lbs is the maximum the b2601 can lift if all the weight was concentrated there. The reality is that the weight of the implement is centered at some distance away from the connection point, so Kubota provides a reference at another distances as a reference. The farther away from the tractor the load is centered, the less "leverage" the 3 pth has.