New seals for hydraulic cylinder.

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tcreeley

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2003 NH TC30
I have a mini Northstar Trencherman backhoe that I picked up 20+ some years ago from what was then Northern Hydraulics. (Modified since from 5 hp to 8hp and 1.2 gpm pump to 11 gpm 2 stage pump- faster)
Lent it to a friend and it came back with a screwed up cylinder. I ordered a couple seal kits- couldn't figure out how to do it- so got a new cylinder. The seal kit has been hanging around 18-19 years. I've borrowed an o ring or two. But I was digging a culvert trench a few days ago when the dipper cylinder started shooting fluid. In a rush I looked online and called Northern Tool- After forever- they informed me the backhoe was discontinued in 2002. I asked them to check some numbers on a seal kit I managed to find and they matched. It has 2"bore, 1" shaft, 12 stroke welded cylinder by Prince. They said they would call back about an alternative cylinder. (haven't yet)
2 days ago on TBN I found a manual for a Bradco backhoe whose cylinders looked mighty similar. It had a nice section on replacing seals- and removing the gland ring. I broke down and bought a spanner wrench ($36) with 1/4" pins- adjustable to up to 3 ". With that I was able to coax out the square rod so I could pull the shaft out. That's where I got stuck last time.
The leather backing seals to an O ring were gone. The major shaft seal was crumbling. I got them in- replace 2 shaft seals and 2 back up leather washers. I didn't have enough for anything else. I got it all back together and back on the backhoe- and it didn't leak! I still have to work on the 8 hp engine- wants to stumble when the backhoe is tipped. I had 10w30 in it and it was spitting oil out by the air intake filter. I switched to 30 wt and have less oil spitting. I have to play with the choke and governor to keep it going- then it steadies. I hate small engines- but it still keeps going. The bucket wobbles because the bearing surfaces are so worn. Next year I;ll get it welded.
Feels good knowing I can rebuild the cylinders when I need to...just need to find a place to order the seal kits reliably. I try to do it all from home. This is the spanner I bout- Armstrong 3" adjustable, 1/4 " pins. You could always make one I suppose.View attachment 277941
This is the manual I used from TBN.
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   / New seals for hydraulic cylinder.
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I found a way to smooth the engine on my mini backhoe out (tecumseh 8hp)- I took some oil out of the motor. When I checked it, it was just at the top edge and over a 16th on the full mark. I kept thinking about it- how it would stumble when it was tipped. Now the oil line is 1/2 way up the cross hatch fill mark. It ran great today as I finished digging the trench for the 20' culvert. But I do dislike those press fit grease zerks- they come out easily. I have needle tips for the grease gun to use for when I lose one. There were some massive brown shale rocks that I split, broke up, and went around.. Culvert is in and gravel on top. Soon I need to dig a sloping drainage ditch running along my roadway and leading to the culvert. The other side is done.
 
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The bucket wobbles because the bearing surfaces are so worn. Next year I;ll get it welded.
tc,

Is this slop in the pins ?
 
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Here are some pics of my greasy old mini backhoe, and the end of the 20' culvert I stuck in. I do everything myself on a limited budget. I had my well dug, septic put in. I never have hired anybody and so I am always learning as I go. Could be better the 2nd and 3rd time around, but the first is always interesting.
Welding- I do farm out- the backhoe frame was done 3 years ago. Yesterday an end cap on the square steel tubing fell off. The pins are all pretty good on the bucket- the bearing surfaces are shot that the pins go through. The horizontal pin at the base of the boom cylinder starts to work a slight bend over time. Once a summer it lets go and cracks in the middle. I have a piece of cold rolled steel the right diameter that I cut a piece off of. I drill out holes for cotter pins- and all is good. My motor and pump are pushing the limit on this mini backhoe- designed for 5 hp and 1.2 gpm. (using 11gpm/2 stage and 8hp). Always amazes me how much power such a small unit can generate.
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How do I install a new power steering cylinder in a mahindra 3525?
 
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How do I install a new power steering cylinder in a mahindra 3525?

I've never seen a Mahindra in person. You probably can get some good info in the Mahindra forums. There are a good many very knowledgeable people.
Goodluck.
 

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