New Pond

   / New Pond #21  
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I want a house first!!!

Michele (Paul's wife)
 
   / New Pond #22  
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I agree w/ you Michele.

Thomas..NH /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif
 
   / New Pond #23  
Ya, Ya, I know

Paul Bradway
 
   / New Pond #25  
Michele,

You and Paul need a tractor first. The tractor will allow you to do the jobs that will allow the house to be built. That is what I told my wife and what I'm doing with my, errr, our tractor. :cool:

The house can't mow, dig, lift, drag, or push but a tractor can! Get a tractor! :cool:

HalfSeriously,
Dan McCarty
 
   / New Pond #26  
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Thomas..NH /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif
 
   / New Pond #27  
Harv and Larry,
I don't consider myself an expert by any means, but I have been doing the pond management thing for about 10 years now. My pond is small by any standards...about 100ft in diameter and less than 10 ft deep in the center. It's in a natural low spot in the front of the house. It was a real eyesore when we moved in (probably still is to some folks) and my wife wanted to have it filled in. That would have been tough because it also is spring fed (only to the point of keeping it full--no running outlet) as I found out when I pumped it down once. It re-filled in a couple of days. I run the 1/3hp diaphragm pump aerator year round. It cost only pennies per day. Keeps the oxygen up and the pond from icing over in the winter. The gas exchange is important to the health of the fish. Pellets are about $20 a bag for 40 lbs and one bag feeds my population (roughly 200 fish) for a couple of months. The bass do not eat pellets as they are strictly predators. So, yes, you have to be careful in adding fish to be sure they are of a size not to be dinner for the existing species. Usually not hard to manage as most species are available from fish farms in varying sizes. I estimate that I put a couple of hundred bucks a year into the pond, including the occasional shot of algae and weed control products (fish, animal, and human safe) when needed.

To Harv's question, my pond sources recommend up to 1200 fish per acre...more if the pond is well aerated and has no weed infestation problems. Trout, bass, bluegills and catfish should co-exist well according to what I have read and experienced if they are classed correctly for size to my earlier point. I tried trout for awhile and contrary to what many believe they will survive in warm water...mine gets into the mid-70's in July...but only if the oxygen is kept continuously high. And I mean continuously. I lost power in a storm for a few days and delayed in putting my aerator on the generator for just two days. Lost all of the trout. They grow like crazy...about an inch per month in warm weather...but I decided they were a little delicate for my situation.

This is a little long winded so I'll stop. Attached a pic of me and one of my pets. I was kind of grubby that day, pausing for a little fishing while doing some yard stuff, but it gives an idea of the pond and the 'gills.

PS My 4-in-1 bucket is being installed by my dealer today. Can't wait to get it back and start fooling around with it.
 
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   / New Pond #28  
>>Michele,

That is a house with a big barn, isn't it?

MarkV<<

Big barn, or garage. That is the one thing we agree on.

Paul Bradway
 
   / New Pond #29  
dmccarty,

Ya, what you said.

Paul Bradway
 
   / New Pond #30  
Bill makes some excellent points regarding Harv's questions on fish managment in small ponds. I too have some expertise in this area, but it is limited to Missouri and Texas. Therefore, I can't give any specific advice on year-round trout fisheries. Here in TX, we generally stock trout in the winter, termed a put-and-take fishery. They'd better get caught by April, or they're toast anyway.

Anyway, to Harv's question about largemouth bass. As Bill points out, they are a predatory fish. The first thing I would recommend is contacting your local (California, isn't it?) fisheries office to determine suitable stocking rates and sizes of forage fish. In Texas, for example, with an existing predator population, I would recommend that only adult sunfish larger than 5" be stocked. I would also recommend placement of two or three brushpiles (hardwood or Christmas trees) in 4-6' of water to enhance survival of young bluegill. With proper cover, and the correct predatory and forage fish species, a pond should be self-sustaining. Likely, Harv's die-off was due to low dissolved oxygen combined with low water levels. For best results, ponds should be at least 8 feet at the deepest point, 12 is better.

Bill can carry a lot more fish through the year with feeding and aeration, so those of us that are unable or unwilling to put out that kind of effort cannot expect the same success. I applaud his efforts.
 

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