New "Daylight Savings Time"

slowrev · Aug 9, 2005

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In the spring an hour is borrowed from our lives, It is paid back in the fall. However I think we should get a couple of minutes of interest /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Ben

hobbyfarm · Aug 9, 2005

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( Or do I just let them blink 12:00 as they do now? )

You know, after I bought a Hitachi, I quit having that problem. Really easy to setup.

But, still not as easy as the TIVO!

hobbyfarm · Aug 9, 2005

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( For those of you old enough to remember WW II, I have a couple of questions. I have heard it said that during the war they had double daylight saving time. Many people not in the military took jobs in munitions factories, yet still lived on family farms. They got up in what must have seemed the middle of the night, went to build weapons, then made it back home with enough daylight left to get farm chores done. Is this correct? Did they stay on this system the whole 4 years or did they jump forward and back twice a year? When I grew up school libraries were full of books about World War II, of which I read every one I could find. I am still in awe of what that generation endured and gave for this nation and for liberty throughout the world. I am disappointed not to see all those books still in the library. )

Tom_H,
You know, political correctness is like a rash that keeps spreading. Some day, we'll completely deny ever having been in that (or maybe any) war. I think they've been rewriting the history book slowly, but surely to mask a bunch of stuff we used to do routinely because "it's just not proper" anymore.

Highbeam · Aug 9, 2005

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You're not "losing" anything. The clock just reads a different time. Still have 24 hours in the day and it is still light for the same amount of time each day. If your work is based on daylight, go about your business of rising with the rooster and shutting down when the work is done. If you live by a clock, then you may have to use your lights more in the evening.

It is not a loss or savings except for those two days when they take the hour and give it back.

I say leave the clock alone wherever you like and let us wake up earlier in the summer to correspond to the sun. Why make things complicated?

Vote no on DST!

slowrev · Aug 9, 2005

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You're not "losing" anything.
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No I have one 23 hour day, and lose an hours sleep. Takes my biological clock a couple of weeks to adjust in the spring.
Now for those who are retired, no big deal.

Ben

Junkman · Aug 9, 2005

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( During the winter months, there is only about 9.5-10.5 hours total of daylight each day.
)

People in Texas have more daylight than the people in Maine, and the people in Maine have more daylight than the people in Alaska. The total hours of daylight in any one day depend on the closeness to the equator and the earths rotation in relationship to the sun.

Gatorboy · Aug 9, 2005

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( No I have one 23 hour day, and lose an hours sleep. ) 

Go to bed an hour earlier that night -- or sleep in an extra hour. You know what day it will happen, so plan ahead. That way you only lose 1 hour of "awake time" instead of sleep.

slowrev · Aug 9, 2005

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Go to bed an hour earlier that night -- or sleep in an extra hour. You know what day it will happen, so plan ahead. That way you only lose 1 hour of "awake time" instead of sleep.
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Yes, but I still lose an hours time I do not get back till fall.
And my bio clock is messed up for a couple of weeks.
I vote no on DST, but if we did not have it we would probably go into another recession.
Ben

Gatorboy · Aug 9, 2005

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Yes, of course there are differences based on how far from the equator you are -- I just put some average number down.

You know what's interesting .... over the course of one year, the average amount of daylight you get (regardless of where you are located) a day is 12 hours.

slowrev · Aug 9, 2005

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People in Texas have more daylight than the people in Maine, and the people in Maine have more daylight than the people in Alaska. The total hours of daylight in any one day depend on the closeness to the equator and the earths rotation in relationship to the sun.
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Correct Junk, also the sun is more "intense" the closer are to the equator. When I lived in FL I noticed that plastics exposed to the sun only lasted half as long as the same plastics in KY. Shorter shadows too /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Ben

bczoom · Aug 9, 2005

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( Yes, but I still lose an hours time I do not get back till fall. )

Ben

Think of it as you're gaining an hour that you don't have to pay back until spring. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I still like DST...
Today:
Sunrise: 6:24 am
Sunset: 8:24 pm

That sounds better to me than 5:24 am and 7:24 pm.

End of June it doesn't get dark until after 9PM. In the winter, who cares if it's light outside after dark. Not doing much anyway.

Brian

MikePA · Aug 9, 2005

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...who cares if it's light outside after dark 
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bczoom · Aug 9, 2005

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Doh. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif And this right after I caught Neil making the same mistake yesterday. I hope he's reading this one.

Tom_H · Aug 9, 2005

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O.K. I did a little Google research. Seems that Britain had double daylight saving time during WWII. That's why I heard ex-G.I.s who'd been stationed there talking about it.

I've been to England in the summer when the sun comes up at 4 a.m. and goes down at 11 p.m. (winter days are just as short as summer days are long at the high latitude) and I can see where that'd be useful to keep sunup at the same approximate time.

Seems that in Alaska they keep having discussions re. double daylight saving time for the same reason.

fishman · Aug 9, 2005

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Thanks Gatorboy for your direct and concise answers.

O.K., so if DST is from April to October, I'm all for it. An extra hour in the evening is great and expanding it makes me happy. I don't like the fact that during the winter it gets dark about 5:30 give or take. I also don't like the fact that it gets light an hour earlier during hunting season. You have to get up that much earlier to be out there on time. I'd just as soon it got light at 11 am and got dark at 8 pm. In fact, I think the time should be adjusted so that it always gets dark about 8 pm. But I would settle for DST year round. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I think that clarifies my position on this deal. Hopefully Gatorboy is no longer confused by my dumb question. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

dicker · Aug 9, 2005

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It looks like the issue of Daylight Savings in Canada could be a province to province decision.

The mood in Ontario seems to be split evenly among business which wants to stay in line with trading partners in the U.S. and parents who don't want their kids to come home from school in the dark.

Then there is a large segment that just doesn't care either way.

Richard

QueBota · Aug 9, 2005

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While their at it why can't we have a June 31st once every 4 years instead of a February 29th?

Dave

Junkman · Aug 9, 2005

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Why not just redo the calender to have 13 months of 28 days and resolve the issue once and for all?????? /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Tom_H · Aug 9, 2005

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( Why not just redo the calender to have 13 months of 28 days and resolve the issue once and for all?????? /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif )

Then the last (13th) month of the year would be 28 straight days of bad luck. Every month would have 4 weeks with no days left over. Since Sunday would be the first day of the week and the first day of every month, Friday would always fall on the 13th. Think of it: 13 straight months of Friday the 13, every year. I'll bet the world would come to an end on 13-13-13 /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif. That's even worse than the number 6-6-6. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

bczoom · Aug 10, 2005

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( Why not just redo the calender to have 13 months of 28 days and resolve the issue once and for all??????)

We would then get an extra month of bills. Wouldn't matter on the usage bills but I'll bet the companies that charge monthly fees wouldn't lower their prices if this was done.

Which month would get the extra day for leap year?