New Allis Chamlmers G

[farm23]

Not sure this is best place to ask. I have been told there is someone making a replica of the G but can not find. Does anyone know if this is true & if so where are they?

 

[dbear]

There were two that I knew of:

About Tuff-bilt

and

http://www.saukvilletractor.com

Although I can't get the Saukville link to work. Maybe they aren't in business anymore?

 

[farm23]

Thanks for the link. I had found the Saukville link before and like you had no luck, guess they may be out of business. Do you know anything about Tuff-bilt?

 

[goatman 1]

Do you want to know something about the vintage tuff-bilts or the current models being produced in Alabama? I have one which was manufactured in the 70's and am currently restoring it. I have had allis g's in the past, but I like the hydraulic lifts and the hydrostatic drive.

The new ones are very similar to the old, except the T92 transmission has been eliminated, and the hydrostatic drive motor is more variable, I think.

It is nice to have a vintage tractor I can use and still buy parts for it.

Doug

 

[bjr]

I'm really interested in the Tuffbilts, but reall couldn't find much out. I would really like to know why the standard transmission wasn't liked? I would like a tuffbuilt with the standard transmission as I've seen some bad things and awful expense with the hydrostat equipment. I'm a very small farmer/gardner and thought a less exspensive built garden tractor would be just the ticket for "Cultivision". Anytime someone mentions hydrostat drives the price just shoots skyward. I would like plane and simple with attachments that are available and that can actually be attached and removed easily. bjr

 

[farm23]

Goatman I didnot know anything about the Tuff-bilt tractor. I have seen the G and the concept is interesting. I grow organic produce on about 2 acres and have a BCS plus a PT1430 but am always looking for less labor intensive methods to keep the place up and running.

 

[goatman 1]

If you go to tuff-bilt.com, there is a lot of information on the current products. Oddly enough, the tuff-bilt I have has very good hydrostatic(sunstrand) components even though the tractor had been used almost daily in a gardening, farming operation including pasture mowing--which I think is about the toughest work any machine can be asked to do. The only part I had to completely rebuild was the Borg Warner T-92. tranny. Parts were hard to find and very expensive. Implements are very easy to attach, and the tractor, like the Allis
g is perfect for gardening.

Where in Western NC are you? I'm near Murphy and I sometimes ride over to Grant, AL where they are made.
Feel free to call 828 494 3584

 

[farm23]

Goatman I am in the mountains of Ashe Co. I talked to Tuff-bilt today and if I remember correctly they started production in 07 and have doubled sales each year. Do you have any experience with the new tractor vs the old and the much older G?

 

[bjr]

I'm not seeing the details on operation. I'm curious does the tractor have a manual transmission as well as the Hydrostat drive. Is it either manual or hydrostat?. bjr

 

[Taylortractornut]

I beleive they are all hydro now. I knw a man that has an older one that has been i nthe family he came by last week wanting to sell it for 5 000 wit ha bad koler engine. I d like to have it but right now Im redoing a Cub and building a new greenhouse. I have a 1 cylinder Lombardini Id like to put on it. Roland Matthews really has improved these machines. Ive run an older machine a little and they were a little high speeded. I think they now have a 13 to 1 ratio on the final drives. When dad had his heart surgery in Huntsville after he got out he went over to Grant Mountain and met Mr. Matthews and took a test drive.
Hydrostatics have come a long ways in a few years. the main thing to them is regular maintenance now. I my market gardening does good this year ill look for on later to help the 49 Cub. When dad was atthe factory they had an electric converion on one said it was neat but freaky to see it hum around. John Blue alo made a tractors similar and a comany called Hefty G made one to.

 

[goatman 1]

The older Tuff-bilts had a hydrostatic pump driven directly off the erngine connected to a hydrostatic motor thad coupled directly into the Borg Warner T92 transmission which drove the final drive. The newer ones eliminated the transmission. Mr Matthews says the new ones operate better than the ones with the trans, and I would believe him, as he has been perfectly honest and straightforward in all my dealings with him. But I have as yet to drive on with the new setup.

$5000 is quite high fo a non running tractor, given that I know of 2 in Cleveland
TN for 2000 each.

 

[Taylortractornut]

I thought it was to but it has a mower, cultivator, planter and a plow and a disk. I know of an L25 Kubota thats built like an A or 140 thats offset with a 3 point for 6000. Id like it more I think.
Right now most things are on the back burner till I can get a yay or nay on a 24 by 96 greenhouse Im trying to obtain.

 

[bjr]

The older Tuff-bilts had a hydrostatic pump driven directly off the erngine connected to a hydrostatic motor thad coupled directly into the Borg Warner T92 transmission which drove the final drive. The newer ones eliminated the transmission. Mr Matthews says the new ones operate better than the ones with the trans, and I would believe him, as he has been perfectly honest and straightforward in all my dealings with him. But I have as yet to drive on with the new setup.

$5000 is quite high fo a non running tractor, given that I know of 2 in Cleveland
TN for 2000 each.

That's the information I was looking for, some real nuts and bolts information. Thankyou bjr

 

[goatman 1]

I had another idea: Quite possibly Mr Matthews might build a Tuff-bilt without the engine, and the Lambardini was an engine they used at one point,so it would make a good powerplant. Just a thought. Also, consider the value of the used implements compared with the cost of new to make a valid assessment of the deal you can get. If the engine cost could be deducted on the new tractor, you might be able to get it for $2000
+/- less, and get a warranty to boot. He also would have all of the parts for the installation---true even if you went with the used tractor.
Have I said I love my Tuff-bilt?

 

[bucagator]

Here is the new Saukville tractor. I hear they are doing a major website redesign. Call 920-829-6116 and ask for Gary.

 

[Renze]

It would be fairly easy to build one out of a two wheel tractor....

 

[6011Artist]

I have been thinking about building a cultivating tractor similiar to this from an old riding lawnmower or maybe a VW bug. I have a bug that is complete that somebody took a gas hatchet to it to make a stripdown dune buggy but never finished it. Not sure which I will do. I think the riding mower would work if I am going to use it for cultivating only. I will build it high crop style no matter which one I use. I have tractors to do the preparation and tilling with, just need a good cultivator.

Anybody ever built one from a riding lawnmower?

 

[6011Artist]

Also, to get the high crop height, I will have to cut the rear axles and drop the wheels. I will have to connect them back after building the drop housing and use gears and chain from old dirt bike parts, sprockets. This will gear it down enough to have plenty of power and run slower than in the car mode.

If I use a riding lawnmower, I will connect gears to where the tires/wheels mount, drop them, then have sprockets to connect the chains to the lower axles, taken from another donor rear. Don't think I need to gear those down.

 

[Soundguy]

what about using something off a machine with drop axles?

soundguy

 

[6011Artist]

Soundguy, do you mean use an existing machine that already has dropped axles for highcrop? Or do you mean to use machine parts?