New 5075M is at the dealer's!

[Island Farmer]

Been following this. Newbie question, what is flat plt? ........

The following is from a Goodyear / Titan tire information publication.

A NOTE ON CONTACT AREA
The only contact area that we publish in this handbook is the 敵ross Flat Plate contact area. This is the total area contained within the ellipse of contact resulting from applying rated vertical load to a tire at rated pressure on a smooth hard surface. Previous editions of this book have also published a figure know as 菟enetrated area which was all the area under a tire at the stated penetrated soil depth. It was felt that this figure was misleading because of the many assumptions made in its determination. In soft soil, the ratio between the pressure in the tire and the pressure that the soil can support determines the degree of soil deformation. This is why soil disturbance is minimized by opting for larger tires that can carry the required load at lower inflation pressures.

 

[Island Farmer]

That's quite a shopping list you've compiled! Nearly everything needed for a commercial landscaper! :thumbsup:

With the wider tires and the additional weight you should have no problem with a 92" box blade. Given that configuration and the hyd top link - on the fly adjustments should be a thing of beauty!

I am planning to do quite a bit of landscaping, trail/unimproved road building, and garden development on my farm. I think that after many years of juggling too many things, I am finally getting it down to a more manageable load, so this will actually be possible. This reminds me, the one implement that I haven't added to my shopping list is a tiller. I am still thinking about your Frontier 1207, I believe it is. I have had some conversations with some of my farmer friends that are very serious about their vegetable gardens (these are small scale commercial gardens) and they have recommended that I look for a used small (25 or so hp.) tractor to run a small tiller, no larger than 4'. The gardens that I plan, cumulatively, would not exceed about three acres, and more than likely not more two acres. My friend's idea was that in small one acre deer fenced gardens the 5085M would not be ideal.

Any more thoughts about adding the hydraulic side link? I guess I could always do it later, if I felt the need.

Is that model of chain harrow one that can be re-configured or expanded by adding sections? If so, sounds good to me... My only reservations would be sufficient width to do the work efficiently. You should have more than enough tractor to pull a larger unit. Storage could be a simpler problem to address than an implement that doesn't do the job!

I will be talking with my dealer later today and will ask him if this chain harrow can be expanded. If not, maybe I will go for the 11' or 12' model. I had also thought that this tool might have been useful for maintaining unimproved dirt road / trails on my farm. If it is any wider than 9', it just wouldn't work for this purpose.

Like the addition of the offset feature with the flail. And the hydralic angle on the landscape rake should be a sweet feature as well. You'll be able to "windrow" sticks and debris similar to what a harley rake would do.

I think that this is a very nice flail. I would like to go with an 8' of the same unit, but my dealer tells me that it is not recommended at my hp. I have a hard time understanding this, but I think it is because this unit is often used in orchards to grind up the the cut limbs after pruning. I believe it is rated to grind up 3" material and weighs over 2200 lbs. I know that you have the York rake and that York was the original manufacturer, but this LR800 looks pretty good and is substantially less expensive. I have only seen it in the catalog, but my Woods 720 Brushbull is built very tough.

Gonna need a higher resolution digital camera for all those pics now!

AKfish

I will post some pictures, but this has been a pretty slow process, and I am currently out of town on some business.

Thank you again for all of your suggestions,

Island Farmer

 

[AKfish]

This reminds me, the one implement that I haven't added to my shopping list is a tiller. I am still thinking about your Frontier 1207, I believe it is. I have had some conversations with some of my farmer friends that are very serious about their vegetable gardens (these are small scale commercial gardens) and they have recommended that I look for a used small (25 or so hp.) tractor to run a small tiller, no larger than 4'. The gardens that I plan, cumulatively, would not exceed about three acres, and more than likely not more two acres. My friend's idea was that in small one acre deer fenced gardens the 5085M would not be ideal.

Any more thoughts about adding the hydraulic side link? I guess I could always do it later, if I felt the need.

I will be talking with my dealer later today and will ask him if this chain harrow can be expanded. If not, maybe I will go for the 11' or 12' model. I had also thought that this tool might have been useful for maintaining unimproved dirt road / trails on my farm. If it is any wider than 9', it just wouldn't work for this purpose.

Island Farmer

Island Farmer,

I was considering your friends observations that the 5085M would not be ideal to use in a one acre, fenced garden...

This past summer I used my 5075M to rototill a cleared area (circular) of approximately 55' in diameter - round pen corral area. I planned to use the 110 but decided to see how the 75hp tractor would work out.

Surprisingly enough, it did a very good job! I ended up with a very good bed of tilled dirt. It wasn't the most efficient given the longer turning radius - I had to stop and back up several times in order to complete the turn - but after I learned just how sharp I could turn; I could get the tractor in a complete circle.

As well, I used the 5075M to tedd, rake and bale a small hay field that's probably just shy of 2 acres. Worked just fine! Not any problem whatsoever. I used the 110 to mow the hay - but, this coming season, I'll use the 5075 to do everything.

That said; a nice 30hp tractor would be a better option - if money is no object! Long term use in a small garden area with a 12,000 lb tractor is not a really good idea...

You can put together a hyd. side link at any time. After some experimenting with your new equipment - you'll have a much better idea of how useful the adjustable side link will be. If you've got alot of road and trail area - it may prove to be an important add-on.

OK, you just want to use the spring harrow to dress up your roads? Knock down and fill-in some of the ruts, etc.? I considered the harrow for seed bed prep work; in the spring and fall. If you're not gonna need it for that type of work, then the 9' model would be the way to go.

AKfish

 

[pclausen]

The tire manufacturers do say that it is acceptable to put up to 40% liquid in the radials. I am thinking about doing this and adding wheel weights. I don't feel it is necessary to permanently weight the tractor for maximum lifting. The only time I am seriously concerned about the back of the tractor being too light is when I am using my grapple. I will simple put on a 3pt weight box or other heavy implement, boxblade etc.

My plan for liquid and iron ballast would be as follows. Multibib has a capacity of 128 gals., so 40% is 51 gals. Rimguard is approx. 11 lbs. per gal. So, I would be adding a total of 561 lbs per tire of Rimguard, and either one or two 95 lb wheel weights per tire. Also, I believe the Multibibs are significantly heavier than the stock tires.

Sounds like a good plan. I'll look into doing something similar regardless of which radial tires I end up with.

The auxiliary light kit is comprised of two lights for a MSRP of $134.

My tractor came from the factory with two auxiliary lights in the front and two in the rear. I am having two more front and two more rear added, so that I can have a wider lighted area.

Thanks. That's what I plan to do as well.

Spoke to my dealer and he had not been able to make any headway on tire/rim selection other than what is offered in the dealer configurator. The good news is that he's told the deluxe cab will become available for ordering on Monday and does include the deluxe corner post exhaust, so it won't be an additional $827 option after all. Hopefully once it is in the system, there will still be time to look at tire options. I'll keep an eye on what you work out with your dealer and perhaps whatever deal you work out, I can pressure my dealer towards a similar solution.

Been looking at some pretty cool skid steer attachments on (Temporarily blocked due to reports of company closure), but am still leaning towards the global carrier for the single release lever and more heavy duty coupling to the attachment.

Also torn between the W.R. Long RBG-78 or Frontier AV20G grapple. Dealer can get me either for about the same price. I love my RBG-60 on my 4700, but the AV20G looks cool too.

I need something to pull out stumps (in areas I want to plow), and my first choice would be:

Construction Attachments Severe X-treme Duty, Skid Steer, Skidsteer, Wicked Stump Grapple Bucket

And my second choice would be:

Tree Spade

But they would need to make global carrier versions (not a problem with the Long I think) of them. Either choice would be way less than a 595 backhoe.

 

[Island Farmer]

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Been looking at some pretty cool skid steer attachments on (Temporarily blocked due to reports of company closure), but am still leaning towards the global carrier for the single release lever and more heavy duty coupling to the attachment.

Also torn between the W.R. Long RBG-78 or Frontier AV20G grapple. Dealer can get me either for about the same price. I love my RBG-60 on my 4700, but the AV20G looks cool too.

I need something to pull out stumps (in areas I want to plow), and my first choice would be:

Construction Attachments Severe X-treme Duty, Skid Steer, Skidsteer, Wicked Stump Grapple Bucket

And my second choice would be:

Tree Spade

But they would need to make global carrier versions (not a problem with the Long I think) of them. Either choice would be way less than a 595 backhoe.

I would seriously consider the skidsteer attachment method. This is the grapple I have been using for the last seven years or so (mine is the GR72):

GR Series HD Brush Grapples

It is incredibly strong. I have been using it, first with a Bobcat S185 for a year, and then for the last six years with a Bobcat A300. The A300, I believe could be a tougher machine than the 5085M with the H260. After all of that time moving big rocks, ripping out acres of blackberries and alders, and loading log trucks, this grapple has not bent anywhere. If it had a fresh coat of paint, you couldn't tell it from new. It weights 940 lbs., but if that is not enough for you, there is a heavy duty version available. This company is located in the same county where I live, so I was able to pick mine up at their warehouse. I met the guy that runs the company, and I think he's a good guy. I have since bought a few other items from him. I haven't talked to him in quite a while, but I regularly go to his website, and I have talked with my Bobcat dealer about him and everything I hear has been good.

I am not sure that this style of grapple is the best for your needs, but I thought I would share my experience.

I have some more tire info, but I still have more coming, so I will wait to post on that until I have it all.

Island Farmer

 

[Island Farmer]

pclausen,

One more thought. If you really are going to dig stumps, I would consider a backhoe attachment like the 595, or better yet a small excavator. I know that it's not what you want to hear, but digging stumps with the tractor and H260, in my opinion will cause it to prematurely wear. I have a backhoe attachment for small stumps and rocks, but for the bigger ones, I wait until I have a few to dig out and have a friend with an excavator come take care of them. Even if I did not have a friend with an excavator, I think that I would either pay someone to come dig them out with an excavator or rent an excavator and dig them out myself. I believe that it is really important to only use equipment for things that match the equipments capabilities. What I mean is that, I only use my equipment for things that the equipment can do for a long period without wearing it out.

These are just my thoughts and the way I like to do things. I fully respect other people who wish to do things differently than I do, like lots of my friends.

Island Farmer

 

[Zebrafive]

I too am not sure a stump bucket would be handy on a tractor loader. Hard to see where it is digging compared to it being on Skid Steer.

I like the global carrier concept. I wonder if there have been any problems with the linkage binding or bending making release difficult? I heard there is a heavier version called Cat 2 out on larger loaders.

 

[pclausen]

Yeah, you guys are probably right. I looked at that video, and if I rammed the area around stumps like the guy on the wicked stump grapple bucket video, I agree my 260H loader would not last long. A backhoe is probably what I want to really do something about those stumps.

Island, that is a neat grapple for sure. So many decisions...

 

[Martian]

Yeah, you guys are probably right. I looked at that video, and if I rammed the area around stumps like the guy on the wicked stump grapple bucket video, I agree my 260H loader would not last long. A backhoe is probably what I want to really do something about those stumps.

Island, that is a neat grapple for sure. So many decisions...

I'd say to get a grapple anyway, nice to move logs around (you know from your previous tractor) but for when you really need to take a big stump out rent a mini ex, I'd recommend waiting till you have a bunch and save yourself some money, but I wouldn't see a backhoe being justifiable just for digging stumps out. That's just my $.02

 

[Edward. S]

The external mirrors have a hinge at the mount. Yes, trees will rake them around, but you just open the door and push them back into place. Well worth it. :thumbsup:


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