New 3XXX series ?

[EuroYanmar]

Hi gentlemen,

After the arrival of the new 2XXX CUT I wonder if there will be soon a new release of 3XXX series tractors.
Anybody has got some informations about it ?

Thanks for help,

Phil

 

[eagle107]

Hi gentlemen,

After the arrival of the new 2XXX CUT I wonder if there will be soon a new release of 3XXX series tractors.
Anybody has got some informations about it ?

Thanks for help,

Phil

My JD dealer stated to me that an announcement is suppose to be made in the fall/end of year about the new 3000 and 4000 series tractors coming out next year. That is the rumor anyways. The other rumor is that one model in each series could be outfitted with a gas engine as a cheaper option due to the increase cost of the diesel engines being outfitted with the new particle filters.

 

[EuroYanmar]

My JD dealer stated to me that an announcement is suppose to be made in the fall/end of year about the new 3000 and 4000 series tractors coming out next year. That is the rumor anyways. The other rumor is that one model in each series could be outfitted with a gas engine as a cheaper option due to the increase cost of the diesel engines being outfitted with the new particle filters.

Thanks eagle107 for the info. Here one JD dealer told me the new Deere models for EC will be introduced to dealers at the end of August in the German Deere factory in the city of Manheim. What models ? I don't know....I keep waiting. About the gas model it may be reserved to the US market because the gas prices here are very high....

Phil

 

[jd670]

I'll be at my dealer tomorrow. I'll ask him. Seems like he told that they will debut in august also.

 

[JDTank]

I think a gas engine would be a huge mistake.

Gasoline needs to just die already. It is very inefficient compared to a diesel engine. People still worry about diesel reliability, those days are long gone. Diesels engines today are extremely reliable, and last practically forever. A gasoline powered 3000 series would suck fuel like no tomorrow, especially running a hydro system!

My opinion is that I cannot see John Deere doing something like that, because quite frankly it is a horrible idea. Sure, the initial cost might be a small amount cheaper, but do you know how many of those would be traded in on diesels? Wait until the owners have to put 500 liters of fuel in every month. They would have thousands upon thousands of returns and trade-ins due to high operating cost.

 

[Nooodles]

when they come out with a XXX series count me in. that would make for a fun mowing experience

 

[Edward. S]

when they come out with a XXX series count me in. that would make for a fun mowing experience

Noooodles, when your legal. When your legal. When you are legal, then we will talk. :laughing:

 

[JD6400NZ]

Ohhh **** yeah guys, gonna go buy a 30k + machine to cut the grass!!!

 

[eagle107]

I think a gas engine would be a huge mistake.

Gasoline needs to just die already. It is very inefficient compared to a diesel engine. People still worry about diesel reliability, those days are long gone. Diesels engines today are extremely reliable, and last practically forever. A gasoline powered 3000 series would suck fuel like no tomorrow, especially running a hydro system!

My opinion is that I cannot see John Deere doing something like that, because quite frankly it is a horrible idea. Sure, the initial cost might be a small amount cheaper, but do you know how many of those would be traded in on diesels? Wait until the owners have to put 500 liters of fuel in every month. They would have thousands upon thousands of returns and trade-ins due to high operating cost.

I think your viewpoint is a little extreme regarding a potential for a gas engine option. I while I like a bigger diesel engine and the benefits of a diesel engine in a tractor as much as you, I think a gas engine might have some merit. First, a lot of people who own compact tractors do not run them many hours and use them for lighter tasks, such as mowing grass, light brush hogging and light load work. Then after 10 years, a large number of these tractors will only have 600 to 800 hours and will be traded in, which is well under what a diesel engine is rated for. Second, many tractors in the past had large gas engines and they ran strong. Today, large gas engines have made some major technological advancements that allows them to provide a lot of torque and have become very fuel efficient. If many people would like to continue to have a newer/updated large tractor but can no longer afford the cost of the diesel engines with DPFs, then what option do they have? If Deere can put in a robust gas engine in their tractor line and make them (hypothetically) $3,000 cheaper then the current interim tier 4 diesels currently being offered in the 3000 and 4000 series, then that might a very good alternative for many people. Of course you will have difference maintenance issues with gas engines, but the idea might not be as horrible as you say. At this point, it does not matter though because this gas engine option is nothing but a rumor.

 

[tduby]

the fact is with all the ew emissions tech on diesels they aren't as reliable nor as fuel effcient as they use to be plus add in the higher intial cost gas egines start to make a lot of sense. plus not sure about ever where but here gas has been 10 percet cheaper than diesel. I'm sure large comercial users who need all the power will still consider te dieeel but for a home owner who needs a big mower and wants the advantages a CUT offers its a great way to save money.