Never hooked up hydraulics, need help

N80 · Jun 7, 2006

( The classic first use for a rear remote is for a hydraulic top link. Makes on-the-fly adjustments of the rear top link possible - very helpful for rear box blades, rear blades, mowers, three point hitch boom poles, etc.

Again, Carter & Carter have made a name for themselves as the quick answer to rear hydraulics for compact tractors. )

Bingo! You beat me to it. Can't wait to get mine.

N80 · Jun 7, 2006

( The classic first use for a rear remote is for a hydraulic top link. Makes on-the-fly adjustments of the rear top link possible - very helpful for rear box blades, rear blades, mowers, three point hitch boom poles, etc.

Again, Carter & Carter have made a name for themselves as the quick answer to rear hydraulics for compact tractors. )

Bingo! You beat me to it. Can't wait to get mine.

wushaw · Jun 7, 2006

( ( You can do one of two things. You can buy a remote hydraulic kit and install it to the rear of the tractor, or you can buy the hose kit that uses the power beyond part of your main loader valve.)

Not quite true for a Kubota L3400. There is no power beyond hose kit available. Your options are:

to install either a Kubota or an aftermarket rear remote
have your dealer install the plumbing for a tractor hydraulics backhoe (i't not a kit). This option will usually disable the 3pt from working. )

Mad,
You got me to thinking about this the last time I had my BH on my L2800 a couple of weeks ago and my 3pt will still work. It doesn't interfere with anything and it is all dealer installed equipment.

wushaw · Jun 7, 2006

( ( You can do one of two things. You can buy a remote hydraulic kit and install it to the rear of the tractor, or you can buy the hose kit that uses the power beyond part of your main loader valve.)

Not quite true for a Kubota L3400. There is no power beyond hose kit available. Your options are:

to install either a Kubota or an aftermarket rear remote
have your dealer install the plumbing for a tractor hydraulics backhoe (i't not a kit). This option will usually disable the 3pt from working. )

Mad,
You got me to thinking about this the last time I had my BH on my L2800 a couple of weeks ago and my 3pt will still work. It doesn't interfere with anything and it is all dealer installed equipment.

MadReferee · Jun 7, 2006

( You got me to thinking about this the last time I had my BH on my L2800 a couple of weeks ago and my 3pt will still work. It doesn't interfere with anything and it is all dealer installed equipment. )

Depends on how he plumbed everything. There are several ways to hook-up a backhoe. Does your setup require the two connections to be jumpered when the backhoe is off? If so then he just broke the circuit and inserted the backhoe. The backhoe then exhausts into the 3pt instead of the tank.

There are other ways that physically disable the 3pt. It all depends on how the dealer plumbs the install.

MadReferee · Jun 7, 2006

( You got me to thinking about this the last time I had my BH on my L2800 a couple of weeks ago and my 3pt will still work. It doesn't interfere with anything and it is all dealer installed equipment. )

Depends on how he plumbed everything. There are several ways to hook-up a backhoe. Does your setup require the two connections to be jumpered when the backhoe is off? If so then he just broke the circuit and inserted the backhoe. The backhoe then exhausts into the 3pt instead of the tank.

There are other ways that physically disable the 3pt. It all depends on how the dealer plumbs the install.

rickmacheske · Jun 7, 2006

Since a rear remote includes a valve with some type of lever to "turn the pressure on", how does that work with a log splitter that has it's own valve? Can it be locked in the on posiition and the log splitter valve used?

rickmacheske · Jun 7, 2006

Since a rear remote includes a valve with some type of lever to "turn the pressure on", how does that work with a log splitter that has it's own valve? Can it be locked in the on posiition and the log splitter valve used?

MadReferee · Jun 7, 2006

( Since a rear remote includes a valve with some type of lever to "turn the pressure on", how does that work with a log splitter that has it's own valve? Can it be locked in the on posiition and the log splitter valve used? )

Most people use a bungee cord to hold the remote valve lever open. The biggest disadvantage to this setup is the potential for heat being generated.

MadReferee · Jun 7, 2006

( Since a rear remote includes a valve with some type of lever to "turn the pressure on", how does that work with a log splitter that has it's own valve? Can it be locked in the on posiition and the log splitter valve used? )

Most people use a bungee cord to hold the remote valve lever open. The biggest disadvantage to this setup is the potential for heat being generated.

dfkrug · Jun 7, 2006

If I can generalize for the "standard" L Kubotas..... That is,
the ones that are designated Lxx00. Std Ls that I have
seen and owned had a fairly simple steel block, made by a
3rd party, that attached to the tractor under the seat to
provide series access to the tractor's open center hydraulics.
This was used to provide flow for the loader valve, an aux
valve, a backhoe, or all three. The 3pt was not disabled
using this approach. A decent 1-spool valve w/ pwr beyond
costs less than $100, and the whole setup maybe $200. The
Grand Ls are different in that the ones I have checked out
have 2 hyd pumps, instead of only 1. I don't know if that
trend has continued with the current crop of standard Ls, like
the L3400. Just try steering while raising the loader.

dfkrug · Jun 7, 2006

If I can generalize for the "standard" L Kubotas..... That is,
the ones that are designated Lxx00. Std Ls that I have
seen and owned had a fairly simple steel block, made by a
3rd party, that attached to the tractor under the seat to
provide series access to the tractor's open center hydraulics.
This was used to provide flow for the loader valve, an aux
valve, a backhoe, or all three. The 3pt was not disabled
using this approach. A decent 1-spool valve w/ pwr beyond
costs less than $100, and the whole setup maybe $200. The
Grand Ls are different in that the ones I have checked out
have 2 hyd pumps, instead of only 1. I don't know if that
trend has continued with the current crop of standard Ls, like
the L3400. Just try steering while raising the loader.

KiotiJohn · Jun 8, 2006

( Not quite true for a Kubota L3400. There is no power beyond hose kit available. Your options are: )
You see, this is one reason you usually see me typing,
"Maybe MadReferee will show up and give an expert opinion!"
Thanks, good to know info.
John

KiotiJohn · Jun 8, 2006

( Not quite true for a Kubota L3400. There is no power beyond hose kit available. Your options are: )
You see, this is one reason you usually see me typing,
"Maybe MadReferee will show up and give an expert opinion!"
Thanks, good to know info.
John

MadReferee · Jun 8, 2006

( Std Ls that I have
seen and owned had a fairly simple steel block, made by a
3rd party, that attached to the tractor under the seat to
provide series access to the tractor's open center hydraulics. )

It's not third party, it's true Kubota. And it's not a simple steel block although a good machinist can make one. In fact, someone here has made one for a Grand L.

Some Kubota B series have a rear aux port for hydraulics and they need a special $65 Kubota adapter to connect to. My B2710 has this for rear aux hydraulics. The rear block on all L series are designed to accept only Kubota stackable valves unless you machine your own adapter block.

The front block adapter on L series should be readily available from Kubota as these adapters are used for loader connections. These adapters however, are not compatible with the rear block.

MadReferee · Jun 8, 2006

( Std Ls that I have
seen and owned had a fairly simple steel block, made by a
3rd party, that attached to the tractor under the seat to
provide series access to the tractor's open center hydraulics. )

It's not third party, it's true Kubota. And it's not a simple steel block although a good machinist can make one. In fact, someone here has made one for a Grand L.

Some Kubota B series have a rear aux port for hydraulics and they need a special $65 Kubota adapter to connect to. My B2710 has this for rear aux hydraulics. The rear block on all L series are designed to accept only Kubota stackable valves unless you machine your own adapter block.

The front block adapter on L series should be readily available from Kubota as these adapters are used for loader connections. These adapters however, are not compatible with the rear block.

rickmacheske · Jun 8, 2006

Thanks for all the help! I think I finally understand it to the point that I am going to order the rear remote kit from the dealer today. So the plan is now to install it and order the log splitter and the top link /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif I do love my toys....

rickmacheske · Jun 8, 2006

Thanks for all the help! I think I finally understand it to the point that I am going to order the rear remote kit from the dealer today. So the plan is now to install it and order the log splitter and the top link /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif I do love my toys....

dfkrug · Jun 9, 2006

( ( Std Ls that I have
seen and owned had a fairly simple steel block, made by a
3rd party, that attached to the tractor under the seat to
provide series access to the tractor's open center hydraulics. )

It's not third party, it's true Kubota. And it's not a simple steel block although a good machinist can make one. In fact, someone here has made one for a Grand L.

Some Kubota B series have a rear aux port for hydraulics and they need a special $65 Kubota adapter to connect to. My B2710 has this for rear aux hydraulics. The rear block on all L series are designed to accept only Kubota stackable valves unless you machine your own adapter block.

The front block adapter on L series should be readily available from Kubota as these adapters are used for loader connections. These adapters however, are not compatible with the rear block.
)

The blocks I am talking about only provide access to the
hydraulic circuit and did not include any connection for
valves. One I have seen was made by Gearmore and sold
by the Kubota dealer. The Kubota factory-built blocks that are
installed on the right side below the seat have included the
integrated valves. The latter setup is what Kubota charges so
much for. This setup is the one that is NOT an option for the
Lxx00 std Ls I have seen.

dfkrug · Jun 9, 2006

( ( Std Ls that I have
seen and owned had a fairly simple steel block, made by a
3rd party, that attached to the tractor under the seat to
provide series access to the tractor's open center hydraulics. )

It's not third party, it's true Kubota. And it's not a simple steel block although a good machinist can make one. In fact, someone here has made one for a Grand L.

Some Kubota B series have a rear aux port for hydraulics and they need a special $65 Kubota adapter to connect to. My B2710 has this for rear aux hydraulics. The rear block on all L series are designed to accept only Kubota stackable valves unless you machine your own adapter block.

The front block adapter on L series should be readily available from Kubota as these adapters are used for loader connections. These adapters however, are not compatible with the rear block.
)

The blocks I am talking about only provide access to the
hydraulic circuit and did not include any connection for
valves. One I have seen was made by Gearmore and sold
by the Kubota dealer. The Kubota factory-built blocks that are
installed on the right side below the seat have included the
integrated valves. The latter setup is what Kubota charges so
much for. This setup is the one that is NOT an option for the
Lxx00 std Ls I have seen.