Buying Advice Need Second Stihl Commercial Chainsaw, Larger Than MS261

   / Need Second Stihl Commercial Chainsaw, Larger Than MS261 #131  
Do any of you know when this MS462 is going to be here in the states and for sale? I am interested in a hot rod lightweight saw to have along side my 026.
Don't know but from Arboristsite:
I was told at a dealer that they were told the saw won't be available until mid 2018. Not sure if that's old news to everyone already.
 
   / Need Second Stihl Commercial Chainsaw, Larger Than MS261 #132  
No one armed with just your age can say what you can do safely. I have a 32 inch Husqvarna and will be 75 on my birthday. It is a handful to start but not that tough so as to avoid using it. I do find I don't last very long working with the saw up over my head.

Some vendors of chain saws, especially if they repair saws, will have a "test" log on which they will probably let you make some test cuts if you convince them you are a serious buyer and just need to "size" yourself to the right saw.

Patrick
Too true. The owner of the hotel I once stayed in down in Vermont was 78 years old. He would clean the rooms every morning, because he couldn't find someone who could do them to his standards. He then would go out and fell a load of wood for his skidder operator to bring to the yard for delimbing.
 
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   / Need Second Stihl Commercial Chainsaw, Larger Than MS261 #134  
Stihl MS261 CM for $522. Good deal, good saw? Any reason to say no? Going from a Stihl 026. I'd like more power, yet not get overly heavy. I don't much over 18" diameter here, and a lot in the 14"-16" range with just a few in the 28"-32" range that I will not touch unless they are sick.
 
   / Need Second Stihl Commercial Chainsaw, Larger Than MS261 #135  
Stihl MS261 CM for $522. Good deal, good saw? Any reason to say no? Going from a Stihl 026. I'd like more power, yet not get overly heavy. I don't much over 18" diameter here, and a lot in the 14"-16" range with just a few in the 28"-32" range that I will not touch unless they are sick.

That's a good price if with bar/chain (I thought 18" was perfect). I had a 261 for several years and it was a very good strong saw. However, both Husky (550XP) and Echo (CS-501P) make better 50cc saws now, so they are worth a look.

I wouldn't expect the 261 to be notably stronger than your 026, unless that old guy has lost some guts with age. 60cc is where you'll notice a big increase in power over the 50cc saws, although with slight weight penalty. For the size wood you mention, I like a 60cc saw myself.
 
   / Need Second Stihl Commercial Chainsaw, Larger Than MS261 #136  
Just purchased a Granberg Alaska Mill and ripping chain for an MS271 Farm Boss. Mostly slicing Eastern Hemlock 15-18 inch diameter . Will that be painfully slow, and should I plan to upgrade?
 
   / Need Second Stihl Commercial Chainsaw, Larger Than MS261 #137  
Probably. Without an adjustable oiler the chain may not get enough oil.

My experience with ripping large eucalyptus rounds to get them small enough to go in the loader is that even with ripping chain it's at best half the cut speed of cross cutting. I was using my 362CM with an 18" bar and Bailey's ripping chain. It was really slow and hard on the saw. Making lumber you'll be taking much longer cuts, which is even harder on the saw. I had the oiler turned up all the way and it could have used more. It didn't roach the bar but the chain got a lot of gunk accumulated on it. Since then I got a used 460 for that kind of stuff and have a high output oil pump coming.
 
   / Need Second Stihl Commercial Chainsaw, Larger Than MS261 #138  
I don't know why the manufacturers went away from having a manual oiler. Back in 1980 I bought a Homelite 450 Pro saw with 24" bar. Since then I've cut untold cords of wood with it, and I still use it when I have bigger trees to cut. In addition to the automatic oiler it has a manual one that can be pumped while cutting. I use that manual oiler a lot when cutting up an old, dead, hard juniper or mahogany snag. Sure goes though the oil that way but it's well worth it in keeping the bar cool and clean.
 
   / Need Second Stihl Commercial Chainsaw, Larger Than MS261 #139  
Just purchased a Granberg Alaska Mill and ripping chain for an MS271 Farm Boss. Mostly slicing Eastern Hemlock 15-18 inch diameter . Will that be painfully slow, and should I plan to upgrade?
Yup.

I started with a JD CS62 (62CC) milling 18" maple. Worked barely. Get a 90CC saw.

And that's a good point on the oiler. I upgraded both my 660's to HD oilers.
 
   / Need Second Stihl Commercial Chainsaw, Larger Than MS261 #140  
Just purchased a Granberg Alaska Mill and ripping chain for an MS271 Farm Boss. Mostly slicing Eastern Hemlock 15-18 inch diameter . Will that be painfully slow, and should I plan to upgrade?

A 271 isn't even close to being a good saw for milling -- for one thing, not enough cooling or oiling, but it will definitely be down on power from where you want to be. I consider the Stihl 461 the smallest feasible saw for milling.

That said, be aware that slabbing up smaller trees will be a challenge because you're trying to perch the mill on the log. By the time you square up that size tree, you are probably talking about a 10-11" square. It will be unwieldy to run a 75-90cc saw with an Alaskan rig on such small wood. I have done it, but it's kind of like sawing on a toothpick.

For smaller wood, I like using my beam jig. I have a 2x12 LVL beam with the aluminum guide track on it, which I screw down to the top of the log, then run the saw down the sides. It works well. Makes nice beams, or does a good job squaring up the log before you cut boards with the slabbing jig.

Hemlock is some pretty wood and makes nice looking wood for interior paneling or trim, or posts/beams.

Here's a smaller oak log in the process of being squared into a beam:

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