Need Parts On A Ford 723 Back-Hoe

[KCTractors]

I am looking for a good set of swing cylinders and the bucket cylinder for a Ford 723 back-hoe. Whole be interested a whole machine also.

 

[TractorTech]

Do you have your old cylinders and what is wrong with them if you do?

 

[KCTractors]

Do you have your old cylinders and what is wrong with them if you do?

The cylinder tubes are pitted up from rust. Had a hydraulic shop look at them and they quoted at $600 to $700 per cylinder to repair. I just bought the back-hoe and the tractor was dead so I could not run the hoe. Seller told me everything was good on the unit. Had the injector pump rebuilt on the engine. Engine runs good now but the radiator leaks, transmission only works in reverse, first and third. No second and fourth. Needs four cylinders rebuilt on the hoe. Seller give me a good one with-out even a kiss!

 

[DJ54]

Knowing what model tractor the hoe is attached to may help searching salvage yards, then hopefully they will list what hoe is mounted on it. I have found it easier on older equipment to use the OEM part number for the specific part you're looking for.

Messick's has a complete parts diagram for the 723 backhoe. Here is a link to it: New Holland 723-SERIES - FORD BACKHOES(01/61 - 12/65) Parts Diagrams If you scroll clear to the bottom (hopefully it still shows it when you open it) the part number for the complete cylinder assy.

What I'm seeing is quite possibly the P/N for the cylinder you're looking for being Part # 192316. I ran that number on Google search and found a used one, but it is sold, but does list the price: E1NNB579AB | Ford 555 Hydraulic Cylinder for Sale Used price listed is $600.

Seeing that that swing cylinder came off a 555 TLB, I ran a search through TractorHouse for a 555 TLB and got quite a few results, 12 to be exact: E1NNB579AB | Ford 555 Hydraulic Cylinder for Sale Whether those are 723 hoes mounted on them would have to be confirmed through the salvage yards.

But looking at the price for a used/as is condition cylinder that will probably need rebuilt and possibly in no better shape than what you already have the $600-$700 price to rebuild what you have doesn't look so bad. That is the chance you take buying used when you cannot see the internals. The hydraulic shop should rebuild it to like new condition with a 90 day warranty. I had the left bucket cylinder rebuilt on my Case 480C 12 years ago with the same warranty by a local shop. No problems as of yet.

Last year the right cylinder started leaking and decided to put a new seal kit in it myself. A PO had been into it and had tightened the gland nut so tight I could get it out. I took it to another hydraulic shop, since I have moved further away from the shop I had the other one rebuilt at. They had a time of it getting it apart but got it. They called me and said the rod needed re-chromed. And yes, I did notice streaks on the rod from wear, so told them to go ahead. That cylinder cost me right at $580 to have rebuilt but is like new and should last me a lifetime. Cost was mostly labor getting the thing apart. Re-chrome was only a few $$ over $200, which really surprised me. Seal kit was around $90. I know you can buy aftermarket kits for less, but shop I'm sure had to add 30% to cover shipping and for profit.

AVSPARE shows they supposedly have one/some NOS one's in stock, but wouldn't be surprised if the price starts around $1500 and up: Cylinder Swing, 10', 3-1/2" x 12-5/8", 7/8"-14 Port, for service use P/N 198368, See Group 2-1A, 192316 192316 - New.Holland | AVSpare.com

All that to say that's probably not a bad price for having yours rebuilt, when you look at the price of used parts and basically buying a pig in a poke. You just have to decide what it is worth to you to have it repaired properly, "properly" is the key word here.

 

[TractorTech]

Knowing what model tractor the hoe is attached to may help searching salvage yards, then hopefully they will list what hoe is mounted on it. I have found it easier on older equipment to use the OEM part number for the specific part you're looking for.

Messick's has a complete parts diagram for the 723 backhoe. Here is a link to it: New Holland 723-SERIES - FORD BACKHOES(01/61 - 12/65) Parts Diagrams If you scroll clear to the bottom (hopefully it still shows it when you open it) the part number for the complete cylinder assy.

What I'm seeing is quite possibly the P/N for the cylinder you're looking for being Part # 192316. I ran that number on Google search and found a used one, but it is sold, but does list the price: E1NNB579AB | Ford 555 Hydraulic Cylinder for Sale Used price listed is $600.

Seeing that that swing cylinder came off a 555 TLB, I ran a search through TractorHouse for a 555 TLB and got quite a few results, 12 to be exact: E1NNB579AB | Ford 555 Hydraulic Cylinder for Sale Whether those are 723 hoes mounted on them would have to be confirmed through the salvage yards.

But looking at the price for a used/as is condition cylinder that will probably need rebuilt and possibly in no better shape than what you already have the $600-$700 price to rebuild what you have doesn't look so bad. That is the chance you take buying used when you cannot see the internals. The hydraulic shop should rebuild it to like new condition with a 90 day warranty. I had the left bucket cylinder rebuilt on my Case 480C 12 years ago with the same warranty by a local shop. No problems as of yet.

Last year the right cylinder started leaking and decided to put a new seal kit in it myself. A PO had been into it and had tightened the gland nut so tight I could get it out. I took it to another hydraulic shop, since I have moved further away from the shop I had the other one rebuilt at. They had a time of it getting it apart but got it. They called me and said the rod needed re-chromed. And yes, I did notice streaks on the rod from wear, so told them to go ahead. That cylinder cost me right at $580 to have rebuilt but is like new and should last me a lifetime. Cost was mostly labor getting the thing apart. Re-chrome was only a few $$ over $200, which really surprised me. Seal kit was around $90. I know you can buy aftermarket kits for less, but shop I'm sure had to add 30% to cover shipping and for profit.

AVSPARE shows they supposedly have one/some NOS one's in stock, but wouldn't be surprised if the price starts around $1500 and up: Cylinder Swing, 10', 3-1/2" x 12-5/8", 7/8"-14 Port, for service use P/N 198368, See Group 2-1A, 192316 192316 - New.Holland | AVSpare.com

All that to say that's probably not a bad price for having yours rebuilt, when you look at the price of used parts and basically buying a pig in a poke. You just have to decide what it is worth to you to have it repaired properly, "properly" is the key word here.

Good advice @DJ54, but this, 723 and the 713 backhoe were for tractors 1964 and prior. Not likely any exist in any kind of shape used to salvage that are any better.

@KCTractors, the reason I asked about rebuilding the cylinders, Allen Industrial Chrome, Beaumont, Calif., 951 572-2258 can reman tubes and rechrome rods. Not sure the swings can be done easily, but this company is reasonable in their pricing. Not sure what your hydraulic shop can do, but it is worth checking into.

 

[DJ54]

Good advice @DJ54, but this, 723 and the 713 backhoe were for tractors 1964 and prior. Not likely any exist in any kind of shape used to salvage that are any better.

@KCTractors, the reason I asked about rebuilding the cylinders, Allen Industrial Chrome, Beaumont, Calif., 951 572-2258 can reman tubes and rechrome rods. Not sure the swings can be done easily, but this company is reasonable in their pricing. Not sure what your hydraulic shop can do, but it is worth checking into.

You are correct, but the swing cylinders were apparently used on more than that model backhoe. I ran the cylinder part number on TractorHouse and the 555's showed up in the search. Didn't look to see if they listed the model number or go back to FNH to check if it was used on whatever model hoe was one the 555.

Not sure how shops recondition tubes, whether bore & sleeve, or just bore oversize to clean up, and use an oversize piston and seal kit. Seems bore and sleeve would be the easiest, and least expensive, and yet use OEM seal kits if ever needed.