My Hoe
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- Kubota B3000HSDCC, BH77, 5' Belly Mower, 6' Hyd. Angle Plow
Hey all,
I am interested in a B3030HSDCC, and found one at a dealer. It was put in service in 2010. They are asking like $23,000., with the following equipment:
Front snow blower, with Hydraulic Chute Rotation
Subframe, etc, for the blower, obviously.
Rear defogger which, in this case, means it is a true "Cold Cab" (I had them confirm that for me, to my satisfaction). I believe this also means the tractor comes with a heavier-capacity alternator, but the exact amperage figure escapes me, at the moment.
It has rear work lights (as well as front ones).
The deluxe TPH that comes with all B3030's.
It has something like 25 hours on it, but I did not get the backstory as to why the original owner traded it.
It looks to be in like-new condition.
That's the good news.
The bad new$ i$, I would be adding:
1. an FEL
2. an SSQA-capable, hydraulic grapple, of some type, for the FEL, in a 48" width. The dealer recommends a Bradco model, which I believe is owned by Paladin?
3. an SSQA-capable, non-Kubota dirt bucket, in a 54" width, probably by the same company I get the grapple from. The non-Kubota bucket thing is to avoid the cutting and fabbing costs (not to mention hassles) of doing surgery on the standard, Kubota bucket, to accept the SSQA female plate. I weld, but I'm no fabricator, so I would have to hire it done. I like the idea of an SSQA bucket, and no fabbing required.
a) I do want the dirt bucket to be able to accept W.R. Long's Flat Toothbar, which allows backdragging without the dentition marks, leaving a smooth surface.
4. A Woods BH80-X "Groundbreaker" (curved boom) 8' backhoe, with adjustable swing speed, and the optional, rubber-backed pavement, outrigger pads.
5. A hydraulic thumb for the Woods hoe, to work with Woodsｴs 16 bucket.
6. A 3" rear-wheel spacer kit.
7. Fender Extensions which I believe are simply rubber skirts, bolted (or riveted?) onto the rear fenders. Are these to help keep road salt, mud, etc? off of the cab sides, especially when running the 3 wheel extensions? The Kubota website has a price of $106. for the fender extensions, I believe. Obviously, I would have to add labor to that.
This dealer is either very busy, or otherwise seemingly-reluctant to give me prices on the additional equipment I hope to bundle into this purchase (or both), other than telling me the Paladin Grapple (actually a Bradco, I later learned) would be $1,895. When I asked if that included labor (to power the grapple) I was told "I don't know...." Yet at the same time, they're pressuring me to make a decision--a decision on exactly what, I do not know, as I cannot decide to buy something I've not been given all the pricing information on yet.
So I figure I'd better get the ball rolling, and at least see what the assembled Brain Trust here thinks about the price of the tractor and snow blower, by themselves, for like $23,000.
I will add that the fact that this machine is a true "Cold Cab" model makes all the difference for me, as I want to be able to see out the back window, while snowplowing, and the factory, in-glass defogger (wires) do just that (in theory). Of course, being a cabbed B3030, it has heat, A/C and the stereo I won't be able to listen to, as I'll be wearing Peltor 30dba-reduction earmuffs, I'm sure, due to the HST whine. I've read that cabbed tractors tend to be louder, in this regard, than uncabbed models, and I wear the 'muffs when running most any power equipment, anyway.
To the asking price, I will have to add shipping. The two quotes I've received so far are about $1,700., so I've got to figure that in, as well, because there are NO such tractors like this in my area, so I've got to "pay the freight," literally. LOL
Other than regarding the Paladin (Bradco) grapple, I have received zero pricing information on my proposed attachments, so I'm not expecting opinions on that, but I am CERTAINLY open to suggestions re: my anticipated implements/options, etc?
Oh! Intended Uses:
I. Snow Blowing
Obviously, snow blowing is in the plans, as this will be going to the upstate New York area.
II. Gardening
We currently have about 1.8 acres, and hope to buy two more, but the additional acreage is primarily a buffer against future neighbors, as it is, by turns, either too hilly or wet, to do much with. The original 1.8 acres are largely flat, however, and we plan to have vegetable gardens, so I was hoping to be able to pull a one bottom (or possibly two-bottom?) plow with the B3030. I also wouldn't mind simply (back)hoeing a garden, instead of buying a rototiller, so the hoe is partially justified by that "rototilling and de-bouldering" of the topsoil, the latter via the thumb.
III. Firewood Processing
On another post (LINK: Best Bucket or Bucket/Grapple Combo for Picking Up Firewood Splits, at http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-owning-operating/252279-best-bucket-bucket-grapple-combo.html) I am attempting to solicit information on which grapple is best at moving firewood splits. I anticipate using the front grapple to grab bucket-sized loads of splits and move them from the wood processing area to a special "Firewood Porch," to minimize the physical labor, as I've had back surgery.
IV. Used Parts Inventory Handling
The backhoe will, first and foremost, hopefully be used as a "crane," as I plan on using it to move inventory in a small business I have planned out. The barn on the property is fairly unusable, due to some built-in, structural "quadrants" inside it, that cannot be removed. The hoe will enable me to lift my inventory OVER these low-walled "quadrants," and thereby using the space within them.
Questions I Have:
1. How is the $23,000. Price?
Is $23,000. a good price for a true Cold Cab, 2010 B3030, with just the front-mounted snow blower (with hydraulic chute rotation)? Again, the machine is a 2010 with about 25 hours on it. (The dealer says that because of the snow blower being present, I will not have to buy the $899. four-way valve to run an FEL, because this machine already has it, as it was required to operate the snow blower with).
He did say I would need rear remotes to operate the thumb on the backhoe, of course. He told me the rear remotes were like $400-500., but he couldn't tell me whether this included any required labor or not.
The backhoe will be powered by tractor-hydraulics, as opposed to a PTO-driven pump.
I'm hoping to run the front grapple off of the rear remotes, and thereby avoid buying additional (front) remotes.
2. Difficulty of Snow Blower Removal/Installation?
Please see "Firewood Processing" Processing, above. I anticipate having the FEL with grapple on, most of the time (processing firewood in summer, moving it in winter) but I just realized I will have to remove not only the front-mounted snow blower, but also probably the snow blower's subframe, in order to mount the FEL and move my firewood.
Is that correct?
How much physical labor and time are involved in uninstalling and reinstalling the snow blower and subframe? (My back surgeon is great with a knife, but he tells me I must adhere to a ridiculously-low weight-lift limit, FOR LIFE, so I wanted to know what the heaviest piece I'd have to "hoss," would weigh, approximately, during the removal/installation of the snow blower and it's subframe?).
Or can the blower subframe stay on, while I have the FEL on?
Thanks, in advance, for any and all feedback, on the questions I've asked, or questions I should have asked. In other words, all comments and criticisms are welcome!
Sincerely,
My Hoe
I am interested in a B3030HSDCC, and found one at a dealer. It was put in service in 2010. They are asking like $23,000., with the following equipment:
Front snow blower, with Hydraulic Chute Rotation
Subframe, etc, for the blower, obviously.
Rear defogger which, in this case, means it is a true "Cold Cab" (I had them confirm that for me, to my satisfaction). I believe this also means the tractor comes with a heavier-capacity alternator, but the exact amperage figure escapes me, at the moment.
It has rear work lights (as well as front ones).
The deluxe TPH that comes with all B3030's.
It has something like 25 hours on it, but I did not get the backstory as to why the original owner traded it.
It looks to be in like-new condition.
That's the good news.
The bad new$ i$, I would be adding:
1. an FEL
2. an SSQA-capable, hydraulic grapple, of some type, for the FEL, in a 48" width. The dealer recommends a Bradco model, which I believe is owned by Paladin?
3. an SSQA-capable, non-Kubota dirt bucket, in a 54" width, probably by the same company I get the grapple from. The non-Kubota bucket thing is to avoid the cutting and fabbing costs (not to mention hassles) of doing surgery on the standard, Kubota bucket, to accept the SSQA female plate. I weld, but I'm no fabricator, so I would have to hire it done. I like the idea of an SSQA bucket, and no fabbing required.
a) I do want the dirt bucket to be able to accept W.R. Long's Flat Toothbar, which allows backdragging without the dentition marks, leaving a smooth surface.
4. A Woods BH80-X "Groundbreaker" (curved boom) 8' backhoe, with adjustable swing speed, and the optional, rubber-backed pavement, outrigger pads.
5. A hydraulic thumb for the Woods hoe, to work with Woodsｴs 16 bucket.
6. A 3" rear-wheel spacer kit.
7. Fender Extensions which I believe are simply rubber skirts, bolted (or riveted?) onto the rear fenders. Are these to help keep road salt, mud, etc? off of the cab sides, especially when running the 3 wheel extensions? The Kubota website has a price of $106. for the fender extensions, I believe. Obviously, I would have to add labor to that.
This dealer is either very busy, or otherwise seemingly-reluctant to give me prices on the additional equipment I hope to bundle into this purchase (or both), other than telling me the Paladin Grapple (actually a Bradco, I later learned) would be $1,895. When I asked if that included labor (to power the grapple) I was told "I don't know...." Yet at the same time, they're pressuring me to make a decision--a decision on exactly what, I do not know, as I cannot decide to buy something I've not been given all the pricing information on yet.
So I figure I'd better get the ball rolling, and at least see what the assembled Brain Trust here thinks about the price of the tractor and snow blower, by themselves, for like $23,000.
I will add that the fact that this machine is a true "Cold Cab" model makes all the difference for me, as I want to be able to see out the back window, while snowplowing, and the factory, in-glass defogger (wires) do just that (in theory). Of course, being a cabbed B3030, it has heat, A/C and the stereo I won't be able to listen to, as I'll be wearing Peltor 30dba-reduction earmuffs, I'm sure, due to the HST whine. I've read that cabbed tractors tend to be louder, in this regard, than uncabbed models, and I wear the 'muffs when running most any power equipment, anyway.
To the asking price, I will have to add shipping. The two quotes I've received so far are about $1,700., so I've got to figure that in, as well, because there are NO such tractors like this in my area, so I've got to "pay the freight," literally. LOL
Other than regarding the Paladin (Bradco) grapple, I have received zero pricing information on my proposed attachments, so I'm not expecting opinions on that, but I am CERTAINLY open to suggestions re: my anticipated implements/options, etc?
Oh! Intended Uses:
I. Snow Blowing
Obviously, snow blowing is in the plans, as this will be going to the upstate New York area.
II. Gardening
We currently have about 1.8 acres, and hope to buy two more, but the additional acreage is primarily a buffer against future neighbors, as it is, by turns, either too hilly or wet, to do much with. The original 1.8 acres are largely flat, however, and we plan to have vegetable gardens, so I was hoping to be able to pull a one bottom (or possibly two-bottom?) plow with the B3030. I also wouldn't mind simply (back)hoeing a garden, instead of buying a rototiller, so the hoe is partially justified by that "rototilling and de-bouldering" of the topsoil, the latter via the thumb.
III. Firewood Processing
On another post (LINK: Best Bucket or Bucket/Grapple Combo for Picking Up Firewood Splits, at http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-owning-operating/252279-best-bucket-bucket-grapple-combo.html) I am attempting to solicit information on which grapple is best at moving firewood splits. I anticipate using the front grapple to grab bucket-sized loads of splits and move them from the wood processing area to a special "Firewood Porch," to minimize the physical labor, as I've had back surgery.
IV. Used Parts Inventory Handling
The backhoe will, first and foremost, hopefully be used as a "crane," as I plan on using it to move inventory in a small business I have planned out. The barn on the property is fairly unusable, due to some built-in, structural "quadrants" inside it, that cannot be removed. The hoe will enable me to lift my inventory OVER these low-walled "quadrants," and thereby using the space within them.
Questions I Have:
1. How is the $23,000. Price?
Is $23,000. a good price for a true Cold Cab, 2010 B3030, with just the front-mounted snow blower (with hydraulic chute rotation)? Again, the machine is a 2010 with about 25 hours on it. (The dealer says that because of the snow blower being present, I will not have to buy the $899. four-way valve to run an FEL, because this machine already has it, as it was required to operate the snow blower with).
He did say I would need rear remotes to operate the thumb on the backhoe, of course. He told me the rear remotes were like $400-500., but he couldn't tell me whether this included any required labor or not.
The backhoe will be powered by tractor-hydraulics, as opposed to a PTO-driven pump.
I'm hoping to run the front grapple off of the rear remotes, and thereby avoid buying additional (front) remotes.
2. Difficulty of Snow Blower Removal/Installation?
Please see "Firewood Processing" Processing, above. I anticipate having the FEL with grapple on, most of the time (processing firewood in summer, moving it in winter) but I just realized I will have to remove not only the front-mounted snow blower, but also probably the snow blower's subframe, in order to mount the FEL and move my firewood.
Is that correct?
How much physical labor and time are involved in uninstalling and reinstalling the snow blower and subframe? (My back surgeon is great with a knife, but he tells me I must adhere to a ridiculously-low weight-lift limit, FOR LIFE, so I wanted to know what the heaviest piece I'd have to "hoss," would weigh, approximately, during the removal/installation of the snow blower and it's subframe?).
Or can the blower subframe stay on, while I have the FEL on?
Thanks, in advance, for any and all feedback, on the questions I've asked, or questions I should have asked. In other words, all comments and criticisms are welcome!
Sincerely,
My Hoe
