Name of hydraulic fitting

[jemclimber]

I have a value leader flail with an offset hydraulic feature. The hose that operates that cylinder needs to be replaced, but I don't know the name of the fitting at the cylinder end where it is a brass "O" and the brass bolt that attaches it goes thru the middle of that "O". Any know what that is called and where to buy it? I checked Napa with no luck. Thanks.

 

[otlski]

Are you describing a banjo fitting perhaps?

 

[jemclimber]

That's it, thank you!

 

[leonz]

I have a value leader flail with an offset hydraulic feature. The hose that operates that cylinder needs to be replaced, but I don't know the name of the fitting at the cylinder end where it is a brass "O" and the brass bolt that attaches it goes thru the middle of that "O". Any know what that is called and where to buy it? I checked Napa with no luck. Thanks.

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Banjo fittings are used for diesel engine fuel systems. If fitzimmons hydraulics is still open go there to get the parts to replace the junk fittings and the entire hose as they are cheap metric fittings that need to be replaced and have the proper JIC (joint industrial council) hydraulic fittings.

JUNK

 

[jemclimber]

Thanks leonz! The threads are on the inside of that cylinder (the slotted bolt that goes thru the banjo fitting), and I assume are metric. Do they make a metric elbow JIC fitting that would convert this? I have to replace the hose as it's in two pieces.

 

[oldnslo]

Diesel injectors run at much higher pressures that hydraulics but are not as common in hydraulics so saying they are junk is not completely accurate.

jem,
If you want to change fitting styles you will have to determine thread type and size. Could be metric or BSPP. I have seen both used on Banjo fittings.

 

[leonz]

Thanks leonz! The threads are on the inside of that cylinder (the slotted bolt that goes thru the banjo fitting), and I assume are metric. Do they make a metric elbow JIC fitting that would convert this? I have to replace the hose as it's in two pieces.

YES, they will probably have to order it for you though. Take the cylinder with you at the same time to replace both hoses.

 

[leonz]

The indirect injection fuel systems feeding diesel fuel to the injection nozzles and returning unused diesel fuel from the injection pump back to the tank do not run that high in pressure.

 

[N2DFire]

Thanks leonz! The threads are on the inside of that cylinder (the slotted bolt that goes thru the banjo fitting), and I assume are metric. Do they make a metric elbow JIC fitting that would convert this? I have to replace the hose as it's in two pieces.

Already answered but reaffirming - yes they do.
Hydraulic Fittings - 9069 | JIC 37° Male x Metric Male (Adj.) 90° Elbow

As has also been mentioned take at least the bolt if not the whole cylinder and have them match it.

I replaced a hard line on our CK35 that had banjo fittings on it when I built the 3rd function circuit. Since I really didn't want to pull the whole loader valve I just took the bolt to my local shop and they tested a couple female fittings on it till they found the right thread (I had already trial & error'd through a couple sizes of BSPP also). Ended up being metric instead but as oldnslow said - they are both out there and pretty close to the untrained eye.

Then I ended up getting the Metric to JIC elbow (from the local guy) like the one I linked above.


As a minor thread hijack - how are you liking the Value Leader brand? I have been looking at Flails off & on and for no more times per year that I would use one and for no larger acreage than we have, I'm having a hard time justifying the cost of the Italian market.

 

[HayDR]

Most of those used are on a Banjo fitting using a BSPP thread.

 

[jemclimber]

N2DFire,

Thank you for the link.

I like this mower, but I have no other flail to compare it to. Maybe I'm saying I like a flail mower. The back debris flap has torn off and the front metal finger/flaps also ripped out because the rod bent bent/broke but it still works. I got mine with hammers which seem to be very cheap because they all dulled excessively fast in my opinion. I've run over a lot of wood and all the hammers are really rounded over. It takes a lot of hp to cut tall grass with dull hammers and they don't make a clean cut when dull.

I would like to get a good set of grass cutters for it, "Y"'s, but not sure how to find good ones that will fit it. I don't want the OEM junk like the hammers are.

I bought mine new at an auction and I think I got what I paid for. Mine is the EFGCH ~60" and it cost me $1250.

 

[leonz]

Check with flail master for new side slicers for your flail mower.

IF you have a set of dial calipers you can measure the hammer knifes width and the diameter of the mounting hole to get the size. from that the folks at flail master may be able to find a side slicer knife for it.

At worst you can purchase a wet knife grinder from micromark for about $80 plus tax and freight to sharpen the hammer knives.

 

[jemclimber]

Thank leonz,
I will call flail master. I have a wet grinder, but trust me these mangled pieces of metal formerly known as hammers are not able to be sharpened.

 

[N2DFire]

N2DFire,

Thank you for the link.

I like this mower, but I have no other flail to compare it to. Maybe I'm saying I like a flail mower. The back debris flap has torn off and the front metal finger/flaps also ripped out because the rod bent bent/broke but it still works. I got mine with hammers which seem to be very cheap because they all dulled excessively fast in my opinion. I've run over a lot of wood and all the hammers are really rounded over. It takes a lot of hp to cut tall grass with dull hammers and they don't make a clean cut when dull.

I would like to get a good set of grass cutters for it, "Y"'s, but not sure how to find good ones that will fit it. I don't want the OEM junk like the hammers are.

I bought mine new at an auction and I think I got what I paid for. Mine is the EFGCH ~60" and it cost me $1250.

Thanks for the info. I am really only wanting a flail for the ability to get one with offset & tilt for mowing a few banks and around a pond & creek. I would still keep the rotary cutter and let it handle the "rough stuff" where sticks & limbs are involved. This would be for pasture land and right of way.

 

[CincyFlyer]

Thank leonz,
I will call flail master. I have a wet grinder, but trust me these mangled pieces of metal formerly known as hammers are not able to be sharpened.

What would be the issue with sharpening them? They are likely [hopefully!] simple forgings. Heck, I'd be tempted-in a rock-free environment-to hard-face a set.

 

[jemclimber]

The issue would be how to sharpen a bent twisted piece of metal, with chunks missing, that is supposed to be straight. I supposed I could remove the hammers, apply heat, hammer them back to somewhat straight, use weld to fill in the missing chunks, and then take them to a grinder to produce an edge?? Not an efficient use of time in my book, but where there's a will there's a way. I think I'll just bite the bullet and buy a set.

 

[CincyFlyer]

The issue would be how to sharpen a bent twisted piece of metal, with chunks missing, that is supposed to be straight. I supposed I could remove the hammers, apply heat, hammer them back to somewhat straight, use weld to fill in the missing chunks, and then take them to a grinder to produce an edge?? Not an efficient use of time in my book, but where there's a will there's a way. I think I'll just bite the bullet and buy a set.

I was assuming the heavy forged chunks, not the stamped blades. Yeah, I'd buy a set.