my version of a KK xb dump trailer

   / my version of a KK xb dump trailer #141  
600rider said:
Carl, Evervthing has a price or so I've been told! :) So ifin I was to sell it I am sure I would require some rediculous amount for it!! :laughing:
Thanks for the kind words tho. And no I haven't totaled it up yet as there are a couple more to-gets for it yet, but I am sure it is less than $500.
Along with not being a welder or painter I am not much of a book keeper either!! (much to my wifes chagrin!!) :laughing:[

Hey, I need a 5' box blade, wanna build a nice heavy duty one for me? Let's say $400? Oh wait, where are you? Anyway, great job on the trailer, enjoy it.
 
   / my version of a KK xb dump trailer #142  
Good Job!! Less than 3 months start to finish on a BIG project... That's a good pace. Thanks for sharing your experience with us. I love seeing stuff like this come together and turn out so well.
 
   / my version of a KK xb dump trailer
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#143  
I made some modifacations to the KF DT2.16 today, I added some clamps to the side of the dump so I can carry yard tools with me. I may add another set, not sure. I bought them on ebay a couple years ago after I read a post on TBN about them but can't remember where it is. They are called Quick Fist rubber clamps and they work great :thumbsup: for holding all sorts of tools or pipe, I have one on my Quick hitch to hold my "D" handle round point shovel so it is always with me. I also put a SMV on the back so if I am taking it down the road I don't get hit from the rear.
The last pic is for banditbooker's benefit!!!! :laughing: :D I'm just giving an old timer a lift!!!! :D
 

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   / my version of a KK xb dump trailer #144  
looking good!, well, the modifications anyway. haha, i just added a jack to mine last weekend. i'm building a set of pallet forks for my tractor now. should be done this weekend if i get a chance to work on them. im renting a mini excavator to do some digging around the house. i'm actually gonna use my dump cart for the plans i had before i built it. :D
 
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Ok I don't know how it happened but I found a scratch on the inside of the tailgate (probably from haulin that deere around!) So I figured it's broke in and now we can get to work with it! :laughing: I have my brother in-laws John Deere 2310 with a fel on it so I loaded my DT 2.16 with some dirt to test it out and it passed with flying colors!! :thumbsup: :cool2:
As you can see in the pics the thing was very full heaped up in the center and to the top of the sides (18").
There is a slight problem though and I don't know what to do about it but there is way too much tounge weight. While it was on the quick hitch it lifts the front of the tractor unless I have my front weights on. I don't know if it would lift the front if I had a ball on the draw bar, That will be how I have to use it I guess! But on a side note I could dump it without it hooked to the tractor!!

Here is a short video for your viewing pleasure! :licking:
‪0715111601‬‏ - YouTube
 

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   / my version of a KK xb dump trailer #146  
Just my opinion, but the weight distribution issue could be solved by moving the axles closer to the center ... leaving them back a little, to maintain "some" weight on the hitch.
 
   / my version of a KK xb dump trailer #147  
I've seen lots of boat trailers with the suspension mounted on a couple of angle irons that were clamped to the frame rails. This might be a good way to build a dump trailer.

The suspension could be moved back and forth to find an ideal location when loaded. Then it could be clamped permanently or welded.

Bruce
 
   / my version of a KK xb dump trailer #148  
Is there some way you can get more of the weight shifted to your front wheels? Your rears are carrying more and that would cause your trailer tongue to be heavy. How does it look with the load on and unhooked from your tractor? I'm not sure myself whether it ought to hang in midair somewhat lower than your hitch or nearer the ground. Maybe someone can comment and tell me I'm full of it!:laughing:
 
   / my version of a KK xb dump trailer #149  
Ok I don't know how it happened but I found a scratch on the inside of the tailgate (probably from haulin that deere around!)

..... I'm not sure about the weight distribution, but the build is great work and the humor... Well, that is the iceing on the cake!

Good job!
 
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#150  
Just my opinion, but the weight distribution issue could be solved by moving the axles closer to the center ... leaving them back a little, to maintain "some" weight on the hitch.

If I were to move the axle mount I would also have to move the lift point for the hyd cylnder under the bed and there are a lot of welds under there so I am not thinking that would be an option at this point. :( Maybe if it proves to be a problem I will look into moving the axle.I wish I could have tried it with dirt in it bbefore I painted it then I would have moved it. :ashamed:
 
   / my version of a KK xb dump trailer #151  
I've got a 14' trailer, which was built to haul a Bobcat. The axles are back a bit further than normal, because of the "special build". If I get a load of sand or whatever, I have to have them load it toward the back (centered over the axles) or the hitch gets too much weight and drops the back of the truck.
 
   / my version of a KK xb dump trailer #152  
Build a plywood box, maybe 12 in square, the width of the bed. Place it in the front of the bed when hauling dirt or gravel. Remove it when hauling light stuff.

Bruce
 
   / my version of a KK xb dump trailer #153  
Build a plywood box, maybe 12 in square, the width of the bed. Place it in the front of the bed when hauling dirt or gravel. Remove it when hauling light stuff.

Bruce

Or, consider extending the rear of the bed to re-balance the load. I know... more welding and painting. But, not as involved as modifying the undercarriage.
 
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#154  
Well this just in from the accounting firm of Dewy,Cheatum and How.
I totaled up as near as I can remember what it took to build this dump.

Wheels and tires used $20,
Hubs from salvage yard $20 and I pulled them off,
Hydraulic cylinder $30 used,
Misc steel $100,
Steel for the sides and floor $45 and I cut and formed them,
4 Inner tubes mounted up $52 new,
Hitch $8 ebay new,
Battery and misc. wire to connect it up $75 new,
Weld wire and other welding consumeables $40,
Bandsaw blade and grinding wheels and discs $25,
Primer and had someone else do it $125,
Paint and I did it $40
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total $580
-$175 I got for my 20 year old ugly trailer
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$405!!!!!!! :thumbsup:
and I am sorry guys but I wouldn't sell it for $3000!! :)
I have used it several times and I sure do like it!!! Thanks for all the encouragement and help on this my first blogged build. And I really liked that I got over 15,000 views!!!! who wuda thunk it!! :D
Also a special thanks to Iplayfarmer for doing his dump first and giving me the corage to do my own.
The next project has been purchased and is what appears to be the predesessor to the John Deere Gator. I will get the pics up soon as I get it home. It will be a total rebuild and needs an engine.
 
   / my version of a KK xb dump trailer #155  
Bravo! Nice job Ken. Time for me to learn to weld. :thumbsup:
 
   / my version of a KK xb dump trailer #156  
cost to build vs buying one?? assuming yer time is free i still think you get alotta money in materials...
people approach me with builds like that quite a bit since im a welder /fabber but the cost of iron anymore makes it usually prohibitive unless they want something custom or job specific
 
   / my version of a KK xb dump trailer #157  
cost to build vs buying one?? assuming yer time is free i still think you get alotta money in materials...
people approach me with builds like that quite a bit since im a welder /fabber but the cost of iron anymore makes it usually prohibitive unless they want something custom or job specific
A valid point, no question! But, speaking for myself: The time I spend on my project is spare time and where some would go golfing, fishing, or other such pursuits which typically have user fees attached, my project does not and in addition I have the personal satisfaction of seeing it moving along at whatever pace I set. In the end I have something to show for my activity, unlike simply a score, taking golf as an example. Not to belittle golf as an activity. Since I take little interest in golf, I leave it for those who do.
 
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#158  
cost to build vs buying one?? assuming yer time is free i still think you get alotta money in materials...
people approach me with builds like that quite a bit since im a welder /fabber but the cost of iron anymore makes it usually prohibitive unless they want something custom or job specific

Well TSC sells one that is half the capacity and has a hand pump and also has smaller tires and they are quite proud of it for $2200!!!!!!!!!!!!
I could of and should have saved the $125 to prime it but other than that I paid $.15 a pound for the steel, the 3" cylinder was $30, power pack was qiven to me, If you can get these mtls. cheaper than that I gota find out where you are shopping!!!!!!
The tires are 23x10.50x12 and brand new at TSC are $109 each without the rims! Thats more than I have in the whole trailer!!!!!
 
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#159  
A valid point, no question! But, speaking for myself: The time I spend on my project is spare time and where some would go golfing, fishing, or other such pursuits which typically have user fees attached, my project does not and in addition I have the personal satisfaction of seeing it moving along at whatever pace I set. In the end I have something to show for my activity, unlike simply a score, taking golf as an example. Not to belittle golf as an activity. Since I take little interest in golf, I leave it for those who do.

:thumbsup:
 
   / my version of a KK xb dump trailer #160  
aye 10-4 man..satisfaction goes along way fer sure:thumbsup:
 

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