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   / My First Tractor #1  

Mrreck

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Hi Everyone,

I am trying to determine a good size for my first tractor purchase. I joined TractorByNet a short time ago and have read through many interesting and informative postings.

I am a complete tractor novice. I have talked to some folks including the dealer locally and the opinions are extremely diverse (From a BX series to a small L series). So I am looking for some additional input/points to consider, etc.

The property and usage:

We just bought a property with 5 acres outside of Sacramento, CA. It has 2 ponds and some marsh area - so 努orkable area is probably 3.5 to 4 acres. I would like the tractor to be able to handle most mowing needs (except for some hand mowing in the tightest spaces). Also, the property needs quite a bit of landscape work (grading, prep for patio installation, planting beds, small tree removal, planting an acre or so of fruit trees, etc...). I would like to think that with the right equipment I can handle some of that... but I'm not sure what is realistic/feasibly (again, being a tractor novice).

My thoughts based on research and talking to others is a B2320 with a loader, belly mower and box blade to get started (maybe a tiller as well?). I am really confused on the practicality of a backhoe in my case, but may be missing something.

I would really appreciate any input and advice.

Thanks!
 
   / My First Tractor #2  
Is the ground reasonably flat or do you have some steep hills?

The B2320 is good sized all around unit but like and CUT they can be tipsy on hill sides.
 
   / My First Tractor #3  
Sorry I can't help much as I have never owned a B Series though it sounds as though you are on the right track. We passed on the B Series due to our hilly property, but I believe you can get spacers for more stability. Check some of the posts by bp fick as he has used a BX and B, JOHNTHOMAS is also a good source as he has owned BX, B and GL. There are others, but their names escape me.

Good luck
 
   / My First Tractor #5  
I have owned several Kubotas. My first thought is B2320 with attachments you mentioned but then you mentioned an acre of trees to plant and your landscaping needs. Think I'm changing my vote to a BX25 because of the factory installed FEL and BH.
These are based on assuming you have fairly level land. The BX25 will do hillside but your a bit restricted with ground clearance. I to struggled with the BH or no BH for years and finally bought one. I do lots of landscaping, tree and plant moving and small on site construction projects. Nothing will do them like the BH. If you got cash to burn then go for the B26 especially if you need the higher ground clearance.
As you can see I currently have a BX25 for my digging and landscaping needs. A B2320 for tilling and boxblade and F model Kubota mowers for mowing. The BX25 will do all of the jobs if I weren't to sorry/lazy to take the BH off.
I reserve the right to change or deny all recommendations once you tell the lay of your land and your budget.:D
 
   / My First Tractor #6  
Welcome aboard. Seems that most of what you want to do on your 5 acres could be done with a BX or B series. The exception would be the landscaping work including tree removal. Unless the trees are very small, you'd benefit from a backhoe for that work, but, you could rent one for a day or two to get that done if that's feasible. My guess is to stick with a B series if you're not in a real hurry to get the landscaping work done. If you can take your time and spread it over time - weekends and vacations, etc. - the B or even BX should get it done. If you're more in a hurry, something bigger will make the work go faster, but you may be left with a machine too large for ongoing maintenance work. One last thing, you can add a Kubota backhoe anytime with a B while you'd need to buy the BX25 in the BX series to get one - no option for the Kubota BH afterwards, though Woods does make a BH that fits most BX's.
 
   / My First Tractor #7  
2 B or to BX, that is the question -

I think the 2320 would be ideal.
It gives ground clearance, but is small enough to mow with and probably not damage the lawn.

There is absolutely no need for a backhoe if you REALLY like to shovel and move rocks with shovels, picks and ropes. With a backhoe you may miss the pride of spending days digging out a stump, and be done in a few hours. A few scoops and you have a hole for a tree and you miss all the exercise you would get with a shovel.

I've the B7610, the 2320's predecessor. I'm biased. I've a Woods BH70-X backhoe attached, which is bigger and stronger than what Kubota offered with the 7610. If you can see my avatar I like to use it to pick up sticks around the house.

And a backhoe without a thumb is like the difference between primates and most of the rest of the Animal Kingdom.
 
   / My First Tractor #8  
Think hard about a backhoe. Will you have an ongoing need? Or will you be done with it once the trees are removed and other digging projects are done. If you have a few one-time projects you would be better off renting one than spending $6-8K and have it for an ornament.
 
   / My First Tractor #9  
I know you posted this on the Kubota buying sub forum but you might want to look at a kioti CK20. They are little brutes and sized just about right for what you have.
Also instead of buying a backhoe for your property you might want to make a detailed plan and rent a mini excavator for a few days and do all or most of your digging at one time. Now that I have my trees and stumps out, I would have very little or no use at all for a backhoe.
 
   / My First Tractor #10  
You have two uses for your tractor that are, IMO, at odds with each other. You'll want something light and nimble for mowing and you'll want something bigger and heavier for ground engagement tasks like the landscaping.

If you're planting that many trees, a backhoe would be a big help digging those holes. You will not push trees over or pull stumps out of the ground with a little tractor, and pushing over even a 8" tree may be the match for a larger tractor. Again, a backhoe takes a little time, but it will dig out the stumps.

From what you describe, I think you need a larger, heavier tractor. I would be in the L line for sure if you're looking at Kubota. Generally, Kubotas are lighter than most of their competition, the Grand L is heavier and would be better suited to your needs, but you pay dearly for it. I know as a newbie, going for the Kubota or John Deere is the safe thing to do, it's what I did for my first tractor, but you're best to broaden your horizons and compare everything available. My first tractor was a 33hp used JD that I bought from a Kubota dealer. When I found myself spending an hour fixing it for every hour I used it (it was 20 yrs old), I traded it in for a new 30 hp Kioti. The Kioti has 3 less hp, but weighs over twice as much and could out work that little Deere 5 to 1.
 

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