Mix rate for TSC 2-4-D

Indydirtfarmer · Feb 25, 2005

I use the Tee Jet 8002 (yellow) at 25 psi, 18" off the ground, traveling at 5MPH. That gives me (a tested) 10.2 GPA. I use 1-1/2 to 2 pints per acre of that 2,4-D. That gives a good "kill rate" but doesn't burn desired grass's.

tomnky · Feb 26, 2005

I would assume You are setup on 20" spacing, Is this correct?

The tips must be the XR TeeJet XR8002 . That's about a 40:1 ratio water to chemical.

Indydirtfarmer · Feb 28, 2005

YES to the 20" spacing. That is an 80 degree fan on that nozzle. you get just the right "over-lap" at 18" to 19", with nozzles spaced at 20". /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Indydirtfarmer · Feb 28, 2005

A little further.... Yes that is the XR8002 tip. (standard on most sprayers TSC sells by the way) On heavily infested pastures (weeds) I step up the mixture to as much as 3 pints per acre. I use the "ester" formulation until temps reach the 75 degree mark, then go to the "Amine". formulation.

With a regular treatment program, you don't need to use such a heavy application. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I use my sprayers at 25 PSI (or less when possible) That gives you less "atomization", and therefore larger water droplets, which result in less wind drift. (You should NEVER spray any pesticide on a windy day) /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I HIGHLY recommend contacting Tee-Jet for their guide to sprayer useage. VERY helpfull in complying with state and federal laws pertaining to pesticide useage. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

It is better to follow the law, than to have the law following you! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

mathey · May 1, 2005

I have a 15 gal ATV type tank sprayer and I would like to spray my lawn but use the handheld wand to do it...I'm also using the TSC Amine 2,4-D...on the label it says 1/4 oz/gal, but on the Gordon website, it says 1.5 oz/gal...which is more right? Also, at what pressure should I be running when I do this? My thinking is somewhere in between 1/2 - 1 oz per gallon...when I calibrated last year for the boom, I got 1 oz per gallon, should I just go with that for the handheld wand too?

thanks...mark

tomnky · May 1, 2005

Just for an update the tips on the trailer sprayer that I bought are the TP8002 visiflo..I think I am going to change them as the operate at a minimum of 40 psi

bdog · May 2, 2005

I am not sure where you are getting the conflicting rate information from but use the info that is on the container of pesticide that you are using. It is not just a good idea, it is the law. I am a licensed applicator and I can tell you that these rates on the container label must be followed exactly. Aside from being the law it is at these rates that the chemicals work the best.

I am not sure I understand where you are getting the different info but there are several different mixes of 24D such as amine, ester, 24DB, etc. These formulations are also sold in diffferent concentrations or percent active ingredients. By that I mean that 1 ounce to gallon of one mix may be equal to 10 ounces of another. For this reason one can not just give a blanket statement of "using 24d put x ounces per gallon or acre" unless you know specifically what product you are talking about.

I have been spraying winter wheat field that are heavily infested with mustard weed. I am using 24d -LV6 Ester. I am applying 1 1/3 pints per acre with Baron surfactant added in. I am spraying 10 gallons of mix per acre. This rate is lower that what is used on non crop land but a higher rate would cause injury to the wheat.

Another note is that 24D is a restricted use pesticide in its full concentrated form. the stuff I buy at the chemical store requires a license and is far more concentrated than the stuff they sell at home depot or TSC.

mathey · May 2, 2005

This product in particular is PBI/Gordon Amine 400 2, 4-D sold by TSC.

First is the label on the container:

Second is the FAQ for the product on their web page:

Indydirtfarmer · May 2, 2005

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Another note is that 24D is a restricted use pesticide in its full concentrated form. the stuff I buy at the chemical store requires a license and is far more concentrated than the stuff they sell at home depot or TSC. )

I have certification in Kentucky and Indiana. (1a, 1b, 3, 4, 6, 7a, 7b, 7c, 10, 12, 18, 19 and 20) I've been certified in both states since the beginning of each program.

2,4-D is NOT restricted use in any form in either state. It MAY well be restricted in some states.... Federal (E.P.A.) does not list it as restricted. If it was/is, it could not be sold in any form or concentration. (For example, if a 100% concentration was illegal, a double application of 50% would apply the same amount of chemical).

It IS required by law that ANY approved chemical, be it restricted or NON-restricted use MUST BE APPLIED ACCORDING TO LABELED DIRECTIONS.

Indydirtfarmer · May 2, 2005

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Another note is that 24D is a restricted use pesticide in its full concentrated form. the stuff I buy at the chemical store requires a license and is far more concentrated than the stuff they sell at home depot or TSC. )

I have certification in Kentucky and Indiana. (1a, 1b, 3, 4, 6, 7a, 7b, 7c, 10, 12, 18, 19 and 20) I've been certified in both states since the beginning of each program.

2,4-D is NOT restricted use in any form in either state. It MAY well be restricted in some states.... Federal (E.P.A.) does not list it as restricted. If it was/is, it could not be sold in any form or concentration. (For example, if a 100% concentration was illegal, a double application of 50% would apply the same amount of chemical).

It IS required by law that ANY approved chemical, be it restricted or NON-restricted use MUST BE APPLIED ACCORDING TO LABELED DIRECTIONS. )

I left out a key part of the post. I said 2,4-D could not be sold..... I meant to say it could not be sold EXCEPT to licensed applicators. HOWEVER, it CAN be sold to anyone. You MUST be licensed to apply it on someone elses property, as is the case with any pesticides and/or fertilizers. (The fertilizer clause is in effect in Kentucky and Indiana, as well as most other states. )