Mid mount or 3PH mower?

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steve tym

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So, I'm looking at a 25 hp, cab tractor for the lawn and light snow removal. Looking for pros and cons of a belly mower vs a 3 ph.
I see the belly mower being more maneuverable but more of a pain to take on and off.
I expect the mower to be on and the loader to be off in the summer, then mower off and loader on in the winter.
 
   / Mid mount or 3PH mower? #2  
You’ll loose clearance with the mmm. Will you need the tractor for any other purpose where clearance is a factor?
There might be other attachments that use the mid pto, like a broom or snow blower but I suspect they are more expensive than 3pt attachments.
 
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I don't expect clearance to be an issue. If available, I'll get the mid pto regardless of the mower. Good point, if the mid pto is not an option, kinda does away with the mmm option.
Bucket in the winter for snow removal close to the garage.
I will keep my TYM 654 for the big stuff.
 
   / Mid mount or 3PH mower? #4  
If you have lots of obstacles and fence line to mow around the MMM is usually easier to navigate with since no tail swing to deal with. MMM you also are not looking over your shoulder to see where the edge of the mower is.
MMM I believe are less cost the rear finish but are also specific to a given model of tractor

Rear finish typically much easier to remove and install also not brand or model specific. Will work on any tractor with 3ph and PTO.
 
   / Mid mount or 3PH mower? #5  
Some mid mounts go off and easier than others, I’m not sure with TYM.

Rear finish mower. Easier to install and usually cheaper. The bad is when you are mowing along something and turn away, it swings into it. You do learn to adjust for that. You also have to turn around to see it.

Mid Mount. More expensive. Don’t let people tell you a zero turn can be bought for the price of a mid mount. Maybe a cheap zero turn. You can just look down and see what it’s doing. It’s easier to trim around things. The bad is taking it off and on. My JD has an auto connect deck. It’s off and on in 5 minutes. My previous tractor was a Kubota BX. It was work to install and take off with hooking up the PTO being the hardest part.
 
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Had both. Prefer rear discharge RFM due to easy on/off. Current setup is a 7-1/2' RFM and it will do our 3-1/2 acres (around the trees, buildings and a creek) in around 75 minutes at a comfortable pace. With a little mulch and planning whatever that deck doesn't cut can be done in 10 minutes with a string trimmer.
 
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Just my opinion, but belly mowers are generally a pain to deal with compared to a 3 point mower. My first tractor came with a belly mower, and I was happy to get rid of the MMM and swap in a 3 point mower.
 
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I had a New Holland TC33D with the MMM and loader. The loader was off most of the time except when needed and the mower deck was on all summer. It is WAY easier to mow when you can see the edges of the deck so you can get close to trees and fences. With a rear mount, it swings when you turn and may hit stuff you don't want to. A rear mount you can back under a tree to mow under branches. I was able to till the garden with the MMM installed too. It took me about 15 minutes to install/remove the MMM.
 
   / Mid mount or 3PH mower? #9  
I have both and prefer the RFM.
  • Easier to remove when not needed
  • Easier for maintenance
  • Delivers a better looking cut in my opinion (compared to the belly mower that I have)
  • Makes a good counterweight
  • Can be backed into corners, under bushes, etc., for trimming
That being said, if I was starting over and had the choices available to me now, I wouldn't buy either one. I would buy a ZTR and use the tractor for tractor stuff only. (OK, I DO like the idea of having the RFM in reserve just in case the ZTR is broken and I also have a couple of lawn tractors just in case everything else is down....).
 
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I think the best mower depends on the area you mow and the other uses you have for the tractor.

In my case, I mow some former pasture with obstacles like rocks & stumps. You can simply lift a 3pt mower and drive over them while cutting at a higher level. With a MMM, you need to drive around leaving grass uncut that's growing close to, or between obstacles.

IMO, you can't beat the ease of hooking up a 3pt mower over a MMM.
If you have a well groomed lawn and can dedicate a tractor for mowing, a MMM is fine.
 
   / Mid mount or 3PH mower? #11  
I own a Yanmar SA425 with a fabricated 60” MMM. It is a drive over deck and reasonably easy to connect and disconnect. It will typically stay on during the summer, grass cutting months and off during the winter. If we need to remove it during the summer for work that requires clearance, it comes off. Storage with the MMM attached during the summer months is also a breeze.
 
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Boy, thanks for all the input guys. First I need the tractor. Looking at the new to the market TYM 3025. Primary uses will be mow the lawn, mow the field in front of the house, maybe 5 acres of green whatever. Then in the winter use the loader for snow cleanup where the big tractor has trouble getting. After the reviews (above) I'm leaning towards a RFM. The 3025 might not even come with a mid PTO, that eliminates the MMM.
 
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I have the best of both worlds, a tractor with air-conditioning powering a RFM and a ZTR for the trimming. Plus a second tractor with a loader.
 
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I started off with a 6 foot rfm because at the time that's what I could afford. It wasn't too long and I was tired of removing the fel and whatever other attachments I had on my tractor to do the mowing.

I looked for a used commercial mower because if you buy two new box store mowers you are roughly at the price of a used commercial mower. And box store mowers seem to be finished after a few years and then you need to buy another one.

I ended up with an F935 with a 6 foot deck. Now I can go mowing without removing equipment from my tractor. And if we want to get the mowing done in a little over an hour we go with two mowers. The rfm does the wide open spaces and the F935 does all the finicky areas. If one breaks down I have options.

Just some thoughts on my experiences.
 
   / Mid mount or 3PH mower? #15  
Get a zero turn mower. It is twice as fast and no mounting/demounting.

I had a mmm and hated it. My neighbor has the JD 1025 with mmm and blower and hates his too.
 
 

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