MF 500 Series

GCLKD · Jul 26, 2006

Just saw on the MF web site where they truly are coming out with the all new 500 series tractor, looks like new hood,and maybe cab design judging from the picture, still no info on the new 1560 yet, seems their web site dosn't get updated very often like maybe december of last year

floridahay · Jul 26, 2006

I saw one of the new 500 series at the local Massey dealer last week. I think the one that I saw took the place of the 481. About the only thing changed was the grill and the new ones have the fuel tank underneath the left foot rest like the older 491 and 492 had. I think that the dash is slightly changed too but that was about it. Hopefully the quality control is improved on them too. From what I have heard many of the 400 series were plaqued with quality control problems.

WilliamBos · Jul 28, 2006

GCLKD said:
Just saw on the MF web site where they truly are coming out with the all new 500 series tractor, looks like new hood,and maybe cab design judging from the picture, still no info on the new 1560 yet, seems their web site dosn't get updated very often like maybe december of last year

Hey,

Could you provide a link please? I was lookin but had no luck!!

Thanks,

Will

dgl24087 · Jul 29, 2006

Small picture under "What's New at Massey Ferguson" http://www.masseyferguson.com/agco/mf/na/home.htm

CMunger · Jul 29, 2006

Does anyone know what engine it is using? Sisu or Perkins?
Chuck

WilliamBos · Jul 29, 2006

CMunger said:
Does anyone know what engine it is using? Sisu or Perkins?
Chuck

Hey,

I wondered the same thing? I guess it may depend if they up the HP rating to compete with other utility tractor lines. We may see a SISU in them after all!! Thanks for the link!!

floridahay · Jul 29, 2006

From all that I have seen of the 500 series they still use the same Perkins engines that the 400 series used. The local dealer has one of the 8000 series and it has the Sisu engine. I thhink that the 5000 series, which is a higher end tractor up from the old 400 series or the new 500 uses the Perkins too

EquipmentUser · Aug 3, 2006

I'm pretty sure the 500 series still uses the same Perkins engine that the 400 series did. The 500 series is probibly the same tractor as the 300 series Challengers.

mfendtguy · Aug 4, 2006

The 500 Series are just updated versions of the 400 series and still use 3 and 4 cylinder Perkins engines. The Challenger 300 Series is the same as the MF 3600 Series which you haven't seen yet and won't see pictures of until the dealer new product intro in St. Louis later on this month. The 3600 Series will have 3 cylinder SISU motors and basically be a "bridge" between the low-spec 400 Series and the higher spec-ed (and heavier) 5400 series (which use both Perkins and SISU motors).

There will be 3 models in the 3600 Series I believe 55, 65, 75 hp. Powershuttles will be an option as well as cabs. The 3600 series probably won't show up on dealer lots until later on this fall.

EquipmentUser · Aug 4, 2006

mfendtguy said:
The 500 Series are just updated versions of the 400 series and still use 3 and 4 cylinder Perkins engines. The Challenger 300 Series is the same as the MF 3600 Series which you haven't seen yet and won't see pictures of until the dealer new product intro in St. Louis later on this month. The 3600 Series will have 3 cylinder SISU motors and basically be a "bridge" between the low-spec 400 Series and the higher spec-ed (and heavier) 5400 series (which use both Perkins and SISU motors).

There will be 3 models in the 3600 Series I believe 55, 65, 75 hp. Powershuttles will be an option as well as cabs. The 3600 series probably won't show up on dealer lots until later on this fall.

I thought all the 5400 series tractors used perkins. I know for sure all the 4 cylinder models do and I think there's only one 6 cylinder model, the 5465 and I figured it used the same 6 cylinder perkins as the three smallest models of the 6400/7400 series tractors.

WilliamBos · Aug 4, 2006

mfendtguy said:
The 500 Series are just updated versions of the 400 series and still use 3 and 4 cylinder Perkins engines. The Challenger 300 Series is the same as the MF 3600 Series which you haven't seen yet and won't see pictures of until the dealer new product intro in St. Louis later on this month. The 3600 Series will have 3 cylinder SISU motors and basically be a "bridge" between the low-spec 400 Series and the higher spec-ed (and heavier) 5400 series (which use both Perkins and SISU motors).

There will be 3 models in the 3600 Series I believe 55, 65, 75 hp. Powershuttles will be an option as well as cabs. The 3600 series probably won't show up on dealer lots until later on this fall.

Hey,

Thanks for the info. Sounds like a good option for those who want a little more than a 400 series, but not enough to justify getting a 5400.

Thanks,

Will

mfendtguy · Aug 5, 2006

EquipmentUser said:
I thought all the 5400 series tractors used perkins. I know for sure all the 4 cylinder models do and I think there's only one 6 cylinder model, the 5465 and I figured it used the same 6 cylinder perkins as the three smallest models of the 6400/7400 series tractors.

You don't know about the 5470 then. It uses the 4.4 liter SISU 4 cylinder and is rated at 105 PTO hp. The 5470 is only available with a cab and the Dyna-4 transmission.

EquipmentUser · Aug 5, 2006

mfendtguy said:
You don't know about the 5470 then. It uses the 4.4 liter SISU 4 cylinder and is rated at 105 PTO hp. The 5470 is only available with a cab and the Dyna-4 transmission.

Come to think of it I did see one at the dealer the other day. You know a lot about the massey's, are you a dealer or a rep for Agco? I wonder why they switched over to the Sisu for that model instead of just using the 6 cylinder perkins. Do you know if the dyna 4 is available on all the 5400 series? Is it standard or optional?

mfendtguy · Aug 5, 2006

EquipmentUser said:
Come to think of it I did see one at the dealer the other day. You know a lot about the massey's, are you a dealer or a rep for Agco? I wonder why they switched over to the Sisu for that model instead of just using the 6 cylinder perkins. Do you know if the dyna 4 is available on all the 5400 series? Is it standard or optional?

In regards to your 1st question-let's just say I stay on top of such things (watch what MF has in Europe and you'll have a good idea, they're usually 6-12 months ahead over there).

I don't know why they are using the SISU other than they are trying to get a good power to weight ratio, plus the 5470 is a cheaper alternative to the 6475.

And yes, the Dyna-4 is optional on all of the 5400's except the 5470 where it is standard.

JerryG · Aug 5, 2006

With AGCOs purchase of Valtra they also picked up SISU engines in the deal. Don't be surprised if that engine doesn’t start showing up in more AGCO products. They will more than likely have to keep using Perkins to a large extent but will also add a number of SISU powered machines.

WilliamBos · Aug 5, 2006

mfendtguy said:
You don't know about the 5470 then. It uses the 4.4 liter SISU 4 cylinder and is rated at 105 PTO hp. The 5470 is only available with a cab and the Dyna-4 transmission.

Hey,

The 5470 is not on the MF ( NA ) website yet.... Are you a dealer or an MF rep??

Thanks,

Will

mfendtguy · Aug 5, 2006

WilliamBos said:
Hey,

The 5470 is not on the MF ( NA ) website yet.... Are you a dealer or an MF rep??

Thanks,

Will

Check out MF's Euro website (UK/Eire) it will show the 5470 there. The MF USA/Canada site is usually a couple months behind.

WilliamBos · Aug 6, 2006

mfendtguy said:
Check out MF's Euro website (UK/Eire) it will show the 5470 there. The MF USA/Canada site is usually a couple months behind.

Hey,

I checked out the Euro english site. Looks like they have some real nice stuff headed our way soon!! That new Dyna 4 on the 5400 sounds amazing. And being able to get a 5400 ( 5470 ) with over 100 pto HP is nice too!!