MF 220

[Anonymous Poster]

I'm fairly certain that the Allis-Chalmers of the same period are identical except sheet metal, and it seems the Fords looked very similar to the 3-digit MF's as well. Might try that route.

 

[ByuBill]

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[mikew]

I am from Wisconsin and I just bought a MF 220 today. I also saw one for sale in Illinois. Do you know what the engine horsepower is? I saw some things on the internet that show 26HP. The dealer told me the engine was 30hp and the pto was 27. I am wondering what is the right one. have you had any problems with yours, how do you like it?

 

[Inspector507]

Welcome to TBN.......... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
1978-84
MF220 26.37 PTO HP
MF220-4 26.48 PTO HP

 

[SteveM]

I had a 210-4 for a while, fixed it up and sold it. I was able to find a lot of parts using the grey market contacts on this website. these tractors did not sell very well (for reasons I dont know) and therefore most dealers simply dont know much about them. my local massey dealer didnt sell many compacts in the 80s, and he was no help at all. although they are durable tractors, the hinomotos have a tendency to split when used hard with a loader. this is more common with the newer Massey 1020-1030 series that had a different frame.

 

[Mike52]

I have an MF220. Also had a problem with the exhaust manifold. It was cracked in several places around the flanges...some of the bolt "holes" were gone. Had a local foundry re-do it (lots of TIG and grinding). did an excellent job. Cost me about $150. I rigged a brace for the underneath of it out of a little bar stock to help support the weight of the exhaust pipe...rather that just let the whole thing hang from the flanges. The local Midas muffler shop bent me a piece of pipe and welded on a mufler. They cut the mounting flange off of the old exhaust pipe and re-used it The $100 I paid them was a lot less than the $400 the local MF dealer wanted for the same parts.

So far its been a good little machine. Have a FEL on it. I can relate to your problem with finding parts. There are a few sources out there....current problem is overheating so I'm in the middle of replacing the water pump, hoses, etc. Found them on the 'net but can't find a thermostat....hope I don't need one!

Filters and such...took the old ones off and went to my local parts store to buy ones that were close enough. A purolator Pure One oil filter #PL14619 seems to work well.....

I've gotten parts from M. M. Weaver in Leola, PA (717-656-2321).

TractorTips.com has the spec sheet for it

Big Dean is an ex-MF mechanic and is a wealth of info. He has a website....http://hometown.aol.com/daustin62/Bigdeantipindex.html

Yesterday's tractor has some good parts sources. But for the most part, youre stuck with salvage yards, a few common parts (like my water pump) from after market sources, and good old yankee "engine"-uity......

good luck!!!!!

 

[mikew]

I did not pick up my MF 220 yet. The dealer told me it does not have a live PTO. Does anyone know if this is true? Also, what is the engine horsepower? I think the PTO is somewhere around 27. I need to know if I need a overdrive unit for using a brush cutter on the 3 pt. hitch.
thanks!

 

[SteveM]

It does not have live PTO, but I think most people dont have a clue what live PTO is....

1) Live PTO means that (through a couple of different mechanical designs) the PTO can spin regardless of whether the tractor is moving, stopped, or being shifted. This is usually accomplished via a 2 stage foot clutch, or a separate clutch for the PTO.
2) You do not NEED Live PTO to run a brush mower, or any other attachment, it is just NICER to have Live PTO since you can stop, shift gears, backup, etc without ever stopping the mower blades (or tiller etc). The only attachment that demands a live PTO (in my opinion) is a rear snowblower, which will clog if you keep stopping it to shift gears etc.
3) Most very old tractors do not have an over-running clutch, which means that when you step on the clutch to stop - the momentum of the mower blades will push the tractor an extra 10 feet or so. Often right through your wife's garden. Any tractor sold in the US past the 1970s will have the over-running clutch built in. The 220 has the clutch built in.

 

[mikew]

Steve, thanks for the info on the PTO. In your earlier post you mentioned the "hinomotos" have a tendency to split with heavier use of the loader. What are hinomotos?

Do you know the horse power of the engine, not the PTO on the mf220?

thanks for the info!!

 

[SteveM]

hinomoto was the japanese company that built the tractors for massey and allis. the engine actually says Toyosha on it - and I cant remember if Toyasho owned Hinomoto, or the other way around. Either way, bottom line - it was built by a company that no longer exists, so parts are only available via used sources etc. Machinerylink dot com will give you actual engine HP, I dont recall.

 

[Arno Niehaus]

Hi there all MF 220 owners. I also recently bourght a 220 needed something small to cut grass. This was the perfect size and still in good condition at agreat price of R1500 (South African Rand)
The only problem I have is that the PTO has a problem. There is a SPRAG bearing in the bottom of the transmission that keeps slipping, It is worn and needs replacing. Would like to know if where I could find a new one, I do not even have a part number to start working from except the numbers
CX 2380-4 stamped on the bearing.
Great to know there are still other 220's around, South Africa also saw some.
Regards
Arno.

 

[bloozus]

I own a MF 220. You are right. It is hard to find parts. Right now, I need to find a starter. Will I be able to find one, or should I have this one rebuilt?

 

[wuntun]

arno... dont bother trying to get a bearing thru any tractor sources, you will probably save money, frustration, and time using the bearing number you have and search the net or your local bearing supply. This is mostly true if the bearing you are replacing is not completely ruined, and you can get ACCURATE measurements and numbers/letters from it. Most all companies that design and build just about anything from tractors to exercise equipment draw up the blueprints to use current bearings that are readily available through bearing manufacturers. Therefore the bearing you seek for a 25+ year old tractor just may be a bearing used in a commercial food mixer from this decade. See what i mean? ...... If all that fails with no luck this link may help, and i know of a few that have been looking for a whole engine for a 220. All States Ag Parts has salvaged a Massey Ferguson 220 Tractor for used Tractor parts. Call 877-530-4430 for parts. I am in no way related to this business (not even sure what state in u.s. they are in) just ran across it looking for parts myself, and thought i would help out anyone else in need. ..............................As for the starter, have it rewound or repaired locally, as these are hard to find, and expensive when you do. Sometimes they only need new bushings and bearings to avoid armature drag, and this is a cheap fix. Good luck to all, and if anyone knows a source for a starter solenoid, please let me know, as that is my thorn in the side