MF-135 auxiliary hydraulic?

[flusher]

Has anyone out there rigged up auxiliary hydraulic ports on the MF-135?

I have Big Gene Austin's CD on the MF-135 and it includes a ton of info on remote hydraulics. I haven't had time to wade through all of it.

Just looking for info from someone who's actually tried to do this.
Is there a simple way to do this?

Thanks in advance.

 

[JJ. in B.C.]

Yes there is an easy way to do it , email me at lowerlakeranch@telus.net and i will send you a pic. showing how i did mine. I couldn't figure out how to upload one on here. JJ.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Has anyone out there rigged up auxiliary hydraulic ports on the MF-135?

I have Big Gene Austin's CD on the MF-135 and it includes a ton of info on remote hydraulics. I haven't had time to wade through all of it.

Just looking for info from someone who's actually tried to do this.
Is there a simple way to do this?

Thanks in advance.

Got 'em on my 150. (same basic tractor) There's a "plate" under the front of the seat that replaces with a "diverter valve". From there, a couple hoses connect to a control valve. Then 2 hoses to the rear remote quick couplers. Piece of cake. Your internal pump is relatively small (4.5 or 4.6 GPM) but will operate most anything that a tractor of that size will handle.

TISCO sells a kit that includes everything you need, including all hoses with correctly oriented ends and fittings. Last one I bought (to install on a friends 135) sold for around $400. Any dealer will have access to TISCO (a division of Woods)

 

[JJ. in B.C.]

OK lets try this posting picture thing again

 

[mlauk]

JJ, is that a kit? How much was it?

 

[JJ. in B.C.]

JJ, is that a kit? How much was it?

No not a kit, the tractor had the diverter valve already on the lift cover, i just bought the the spool valve, hoses and quick disconnects, made up a tall bracket that bolts onto the footplate for the spool valve to sit on and another bracket bolted to the side of the diff. for the QD's. Total cost about $300. JJ.

 

[mlauk]

Nice set up. I did not know where to run the return line for a double acting cylinder.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Nice set up. I did not know where to run the return line for a double acting cylinder.

I'll try to remember to get a picture of the set-up on my 150 Massey. It has the return line hooked to a return port on the diverter valve.

It's the "TISCO" kit I was talking about earlier in the thread. Most of our local Massey dealers use it as a retro-fit kit for all MF utilities from 100 series on up to very recent models. It even comes with all the bolts and spacers to attach valve to fender.

I changed that a bit. Made a bracket that attaches to tractor chassis to hold valve. I HATE drilling holes in fenders.

 

[GREENBOY]

Hello,
I thought I had found a solution by using a double acting spool working from my MF135 so that I could operate a 3 point attached tipping bucket with hydraulic up and down RAM.
I have just been told/advised that on the MF135 its not possible to have independant movement of the 3 point linkage at the same time as operating the DA spool valve to move the ram up and down... does this seem right?

this is what i have bought, can it be used on a MF135?

 

[soulasphil]

I'm afraid it's right. On my MF35 I had changed the plate under the seat where the hydraulic oil arrives from the pump for a 3 way valve. With the handle forward I could use the FEL, with the handle up I used the 3 pt hitch and with the handle towards the rear I operated the trailer. These were all single effect cylinders, up under pressure and down under their own weight. There was no way I could use the 3 pt and the FEL at the same time for instance.

 

[Soundguy]

you could salvage he situation if you have already invested some money by adding a small electric over hyd wet kit on.. they are basically a starter motor, a couple quart oil sump, and a smll gear pump.. with valving and ports and a control box.. you could use this for your topn tilt or da low volume hyds for a dump cart.. and let the 3pt do it's own thing... I've seen them on surplus center for a couple hundred.. sometimes less..

soundguy

 

[GREENBOY]

thanks gents for the guidance, if i added the diverter valve as mentioned by soulasphil and i lifted the bucket by the 3 point hitch then switched to the hydraulic ram and tilted that would the 3 point hitch lower in the process under its natural weight/gravity , ie will the bucket remain in the last position i left it in if i switched the divertor to another point?
Massey Ferguson Hydraulic Diverter Valve
this i think is the diverter i need?

 

[soulasphil]

That is not the exact model I had, but the diverter valve on the picture seems perfect for the 135. And yes, when you switch to another position, everything remains in the same position till you switch it back on.

 

[Soundguy]

depends on the condition of the lift cyl and piston rings.

soundguy

thanks gents for the guidance, if i added the diverter valve as mentioned by soulasphil and i lifted the bucket by the 3 point hitch then switched to the hydraulic ram and tilted that would the 3 point hitch lower in the process under its natural weight/gravity , ie will the bucket remain in the last position i left it in if i switched the divertor to another point?
Massey Ferguson Hydraulic Diverter Valve
this i think is the diverter i need?

 

[Aqualize]

If you have an auxiliary hydraulic pump (a dual gear pump) you can use that one. It has a bit lower pressure than the normal piston pump thou.
As I've understand it some tractors can have the auxiliary pump without having multi power (power shift gear) and some multi power equipped tractors has an low capacity pump that only can manage the multi power clutch.

If your 3pt hitch is good order and not lowering too fast without the piston pump constantly correcting it, then I would think you would be quite fine as switching between the 3pt and spool valve.

 

[soulasphil]

This enlargement is poor quality but it may give a better idea of what my valve was like. The lever is up and the oil flows down the external metal pipe to the loader.

 

[soulasphil]

Here is where the QCs went behind the seat. Only one in place (single action).

 

[Zadch]

So does the position control lever have to be in the constant pumping position for the diverter to work?

 

[GREENBOY]

Yes thats correct, you will get some pumping if its just this side of constant pumping but for the full pump put the control in constant, also make sure you move the control back away from this point and a bit more before you change the diverter back to the lift arms position to avoid overloading the internal mechanics o rings etc... you know when you havnt moved it enough as you get a nasty clanking/iratic pumping sound.