Massey Ferguson or not?

[JWR]

John Deeres using Chinese Motors? First I've heard of that. Was it converted?
Most small JDs use Yanmar engines. Those are top notch.
rScotty

My JD4700 in the 2000-2010 timeframe used a Yanmar engine. My family still owns it. Flawless engine. Never a problem.

 

[Bentrim]

I think Massey was one of the first to use the world to build a tractor. Engines from England, transmissions from England, France, Brazil, maybe more, rear axles England, France, Brazil, maybe more. All was shipped to Detroit where the front end, hood and fenders were added as the engine, transmission, and rear axle was assembled. So assembled in the USA back in the 60's and 70's. Then most assembly was moved to England for the small tractors and France for the bigger tractors. The original compacts (205, 210, 220) also certain AC models were built in Japan by Toyosha (note NOT Toyota). Toyosha went up and then the new 4 digit models were built by Iseki
John Deere was using German factories before most realize.
IH I believe with the B414 started with English built tractors
I believe during the 70'5 and 80's White used Fiat (MM, Oliver, Cockshutt and AC) then later used Iseki for some of their models.
So in the end unless you go way back say 40's or 50's it is very hard to find a tractor that was manufactured and built in the USA.
Cheaper to build overseas and ship here than to build here.

 

[can do]

I think Massey was one of the first to use the world to build a tractor. Engines from England, transmissions from England, France, Brazil, maybe more, rear axles England, France, Brazil, maybe more. All was shipped to Detroit where the front end, hood and fenders were added as the engine, transmission, and rear axle was assembled. So assembled in the USA back in the 60's and 70's. Then most assembly was moved to England for the small tractors and France for the bigger tractors. The original compacts (205, 210, 220) also certain AC models were built in Japan by Toyosha (note NOT Toyota). Toyosha went up and then the new 4 digit models were built by Iseki
John Deere was using German factories before most realize.
IH I believe with the B414 started with English built tractors
I believe during the 70'5 and 80's White used Fiat (MM, Oliver, Cockshutt and AC) then later used Iseki for some of their models.
So in the end unless you go way back say 40's or 50's it is very hard to find a tractor that was manufactured and built in the USA.
Cheaper to build overseas and ship here than to build here.

You are quite right! & M-F has always been a global tractor , & more so since AGCO acquired them , My 1959 M-F 50 was made in Detroit, But has some parts from Canada , & the U.K. & my 2018 M-F 1526 is mostly Japan by Iseki & very few U.S. Components . But I have no problems with that as I knew before hand what I was buying, & my 59 M-F 50 is what sold me into buying my 2018 M-F 1526 , Both are very reliable & do the work I need them to do year in year out.

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

my 59 M-F 50 is what sold me into buying my 2018 M-F 1526

But those are two very different tractors. They have absolutely nothing in common with each other. One is a real Massey Ferguson and the other one is just an Iseki with a Massey badge on it. I don't see your logic here other then you saying you had a good experience with the brand so you're sticking with it.

 

[sea2summit]

While I was pawing around on and under my new Massey Ferguson 4707, I noticed that the....

Loader was made in Sweden
Front end was made in France
Tires were made in Norway
Bucket was made in China
Hoses were made in Italy

If you took china off the bucket and put Germany in there it sounds like my pedigree.

Just bought my first MF...it's not a tractor though. So far no issues but it's just sitting on the trailer

 

[sea2summit]

I didn’t think the Kubota tractors had any US made components? I believe some assembly is done in the US and Kubota works closely with Land Pride for attachments but, I thought that was about it.

I could be totally wrong though..

Mike

A very good portion of it is built in the US, right here in GA as a mater of fact.

 

[sea2summit]

You are wrong, Rdrcr. Kubota is more "American" than any other compact tractor made today. But that doesn't mean it is all American. If you want to avoid buying a tractor than has no Chinese made parts, I am pretty sure that you won't be able to buy a tractor.

Recently paid more for some bearings for the round baler because I thought they were made here, boy was I upset when I got the box

Was just looking for some taps and picked up an irwin box because it was "made in usa" but the only thing made here were the actual taps, all the other parts were Taiwan. SMH. Still shopping.

 

[Rdrcr]

A very good portion of it is built in the US, right here in GA as a mater of fact.

Good to know!

Thank you!

Mike

 

[Dsewell1963]

Hello all. First time posting on here I believe. My wife and I left our John Deere in Oregon when we left. It saw pretty much constant use on our small acreage. It was a 3203 with a front-end loader. We have since bought acreage (7.65 acres) in eastern Oklahoma and we are needing to purchase another tractor. Currently looking at an MF 1835E which to me looks like a decent tractor for the money. Several things that appeal to me are that it takes more universal attachments compared to our Deere and it's considerably less money for its size HP-wise. Not interested in breaking the bank. This will be something for us to maintain our property only. Any thoughts anyone would like to share would be appreciated. If you own one and like it, pros and cons, etc. Thanks in advance for any help you might have for me.

I bought a MF 1840e last summer. I’m glad I got the 40 hp. It has a loader and bush hog and scrape blade. It’s a very good tractor. I love mine.

 

[3 Horse Ranch]

You are wrong, Rdrcr. Kubota is more "American" than any other compact tractor made today. But that doesn't mean it is all American. If you want to avoid buying a tractor than has no Chinese made parts, I am pretty sure that you won't be able to buy a tractor.

At least not one made in the past 50 years or so. I am pretty sure my old 1941 9N was 100% American made, but anything newer than that is anyone's guess.

The Massey looks to be a good buy. Surprised they have any in stock.