Larry, just measure the inside width of your own bucket. That will tell you the exact length to fit. Now when you say you want a "perfect fit" that might mean different things to different people /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Does that mean you want it to fit tight inside the bucket? Personally, I'd measure the inside width of the bucket and order a toothbar a quarter of an inch shorter than that. That way it's relatively easy to put on and take off and an eighth of an inch on either side can simply be pulled tight by the bolt on each side, or you can put one washer inside the bucket on each side. It's a lot easier to put a spacer on either end than to have to hammer it on and off when it's too snug. Yep, I used a 4# hammer myself to get mine on and off. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif But I guess some would say it was a "perfect fit". /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif