Major issue with wood-stove - Need advice!

   / Major issue with wood-stove - Need advice! #111  
Having a stove made of 3/8 steel is incredible. Steel stoves on the market have always used 1/4". That stove will retain heat and is an extremely safe stove in that it won't burn through! The interior baffle makes the heat travel more, increasing the chance for the gases to completely combust- more heat per unit - efficiency design. Modern stoves just throw in epa stuff, stoves like yours are the good ones!

If the stove is airtight and all closed up, backpuffing can still push the smoke out between the joints in the stovepipe!
Before airtight stoves, the stoves were all cast iron plates bolted together. The joints held but air could leak by. When a fire was lit, the hot flames increased the draft and air was sucked into the stove through the inlet, but also through the numerous joints.
These stoves burned hot and fast because they leaked so much air. Unless you had a damper in the stove pipe, you couldn't shut them down. They required frequent feeding (same as a fireplace}. They were hard to heat with because they burned too hot, and too fast. A fire started in the evening would be out and cold by 2am. By 6 am the house is stone cold.
Air tight stoves (yours is an air tight stove- welded seams all the way around) did not leak air and so the rate of burn could be regulated by closing up the inlet (less O2 available). A fire started in the evening could still be giving off heat come 6am with a good bed of coals to throw some more wood onto.

Once we start, the stove does not go out until spring - unless we mess up and forget to put wood in. A 1/2 teacup of coals is all you need to get a roaring fire going in a 1/2 hour.

I always check the stove for safety, combustibles nearby, pipe connections. I always know the condition of the fire. I know how fast it is burning, the quantity, the quality and type of wood that is going in, when I last filled it, when I will need to fill it again. I got into the habit of always checking and double checking. Having a few thermometers in various places is handy was well.
With our stove- when I go to open it, I unlatch it and open it an inch. I wait a second or two to allow the draft to adjust - then I open it. If I open it too fast, I can get smoke in the room.

Again good luck. You have a lot of potential in your set up - solid 3/8 steel stove, solid steel chimney.
If you have money to spend- insulate your solid steel chimney by building a structure around it. I don't think you need to rush in that direction. If your temps were 0F and below all winter, then I would feel it was more imperative.

Good luck, enjoy your stove. (fans + floor registers are great ways to move heat around)

Your interior horizontal pipe might have some ash buildup that is restricting air flow to the chimney- might take it apart to clean it. Stove pipe joints are always screwed with 3 sheet metal screws to prevent them from pulling apart.
 
   / Major issue with wood-stove - Need advice! #112  
This Post is a good example of TBN'rs helping one another. That is a very good thing. I think that the advice given was sound and well-motivated.
I have been through the tough times, such as David alluded to.
It always gets better if you keep on slugging away, David...and you sound like a winner to me.

TBN is the best forum with the best guys that I have ever seen. Thanks to each of you.
 
   / Major issue with wood-stove - Need advice! #113  
Just read through the entire thread, good info and advice. David, I feel for your situation brother. I went through a lot the last few years, including a horrible, twisted 3 year divorce and a few other rough situations during the whole mess. One thing for sure life isn't easy, but I'm a believer in that the man upstairs doesn't throw anything at us he doesn't think we can handle. Hang in there, enjoy the stove and trust in the fact that with time and determination all things eventually end up just fine.
 
   / Major issue with wood-stove - Need advice! #114  
Just read the whole thread myself, learned a lot of good stuff and some of questionable value. I have determined that the long pipe needs more bracing, could blow over in a windstorm and kill a buss load of orpans driven by some little nunn. Also see possible healthcare savings with the do it yourself 10' colonoscopy camera.:D:laughing:
 
   / Major issue with wood-stove - Need advice!
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#115  
Having a stove made of 3/8 steel is incredible...

Again good luck. You have a lot of potential in your set up - solid 3/8 steel stove, solid steel chimney.
If you have money to spend- insulate your solid steel chimney by building a structure around it. I don't think you need to rush in that direction. If your temps were 0F and below all winter, then I would feel it was more imperative.

Good luck, enjoy your stove. (fans + floor registers are great ways to move heat around)

Your interior horizontal pipe might have some ash buildup that is restricting air flow to the chimney- might take it apart to clean it. Stove pipe joints are always screwed with 3 sheet metal screws to prevent them from pulling apart.

THANK YOU for such an awesome post!
Be well sir.
David
 
   / Major issue with wood-stove - Need advice!
  • Thread Starter
#116  
This Post is a good example of TBN'rs helping one another. That is a very good thing. I think that the advice given was sound and well-motivated.
I have been through the tough times, such as David alluded to.
It always gets better if you keep on slugging away, David...and you sound like a winner to me.

TBN is the best forum with the best guys that I have ever seen. Thanks to each of you.

Thank you kindly. I happen to agree, TBN is a great place filled with great people and a ton of knowledge...


Just read through the entire thread, good info and advice. David, I feel for your situation brother. I went through a lot the last few years, including a horrible, twisted 3 year divorce and a few other rough situations during the whole mess. One thing for sure life isn't easy, but I'm a believer in that the man upstairs doesn't throw anything at us he doesn't think we can handle. Hang in there, enjoy the stove and trust in the fact that with time and determination all things eventually end up just fine.

The man upstairs seems to have an extremely optimistic perspective on my capabilities... Glad you made it through yours sir.

Just read the whole thread myself, learned a lot of good stuff and some of questionable value. I have determined that the long pipe needs more bracing, could blow over in a windstorm and kill a buss load of orpans driven by some little nunn. Also see possible healthcare savings with the do it yourself 10' colonoscopy camera.:D:laughing:

It will be OK, I posted the property as a no-Nun area, that will keep her and her busload of orphans safe and far away from here... :D

Thank all 3 of you, have a great weekend!

Be well,
Daid
 
   / Major issue with wood-stove - Need advice! #117  
Go on Craigslist and find a modern high efficency wood stove with a glass door so you can see the flame and actually have some idea what the fire is doing. That 6 foot run of horizontal pipe needs to be shortened as much as possible or even 45 it to the wall will help. Outer chimney should be double wall with a cap. That whole situation is a mess to say the least. I have a regency stove in my house and a lot of people would change their opinions on burning wood if they had the opportunity to use a QUALITY stove. I can leave my stove for 12 hours and have enough coal left to stir up and just toss more wood on, manipulate the damper to whatever heat output you want. Simply put there's no comparison.

Now do you want to spend thousands of dollars on a woodstove. by the sounds of if probably not to burn wood occasionally. I have propane forced or and wood saves us probably 1500 a year so it's worth it
 
   / Major issue with wood-stove - Need advice! #118  
We just couldn't end this on a pleasant note could we?
 
   / Major issue with wood-stove - Need advice! #120  
She looks like a beast,, :) I've been burning wood for years and always use a stack temp. gauge so I can tell how the stove is running.. for me 100 to 150 deg. and the stack is warm enough to start closing it down,, I usually run a stack temp between 250 and 350.. mine is an airtight but like someone else said not many of them really are,,, I would never try to smother a fire by closing things up.. You will get smoke back,, you want to regulate the fire by the amount of wood you put in it,, 20 below night I fill her up,, going to be 25 above about half full..

It's all in the learning what our stove wants no 2 are the same and different dryness of wood or different types of wood burn differently..

Good luck to you as for the divorce been there done that a few times,, A good lawyer is the only thing that helps ..
 

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