Mahindra 6000 w/ Bradco 511 BH

[BobG_in_VA]

Well, I pulled the trigger today and ordered a 511 BH with both the 18" and 24" buckets and frame mount. Also ordered the PTO pump. Should be here in a couple of weeks. Anything I should be wary of????Anyone had any problems on break-in with the Bradco? thanks. BobG in VA

 

[LarryRB]

I had one with the PTO pump and it was flawless. Personally, I had 12 and 24 buckets. The difference between the 18 and 24 isn't enough. The difference between the 12 and 24 is like night and day. 12" buckets are best when used to rip trunk roots out (Bradco adds side cutters to their buckets) and do underground electric and the like.. An 18 with side cutters isn't enough difference from the 24 when it comes to pure ripping power... Somewhere on the photo section is pics of the hoe.. Also on Newenglandtractor.com and under their backhoe page, is more pics of the machine I had w/511. Please consider changing the 18 for a 12, especially if tree trunks/roots, etc are on the immediate to do project lists.

 

[BobG_in_VA]

Thanks for info. I think you're right! I'll give my dealer a call on Monday morning. I was also thinking that for trenching if you needed to cover your "stuff" with gravel the 18" would require a bunch more than a 12". Thanks for the reply. BobG in VA

 

[LarryRB]

look at the 12/24 buckets in a leverage fashion. You have a lot more leverage between the 12 " bucket and the approx. 8" wide dipper stick.. Putting on the 18" drastically reduces the leverage for power uses.. And even more so using a 24..

 

[Slippy]

I have the 6000 w/ 511 Mahindra (Bradco) BH. I also agree that the 12" and 24" is the best way to go. Mine has plenty of power to dig roots, etc with the 12". It also takes alot less gravel to fill the ditches.
I don't have the pto pump. Not sure I need it. It seems to run fine and fast enough, although as I have gotten better with it I can see how the pump would be usefull if it will increase the speed of the hoe.
Couple of things to watch. I have bumped my knee on the pit cock release knob and lost fluid and then wondered why the hoe was not responding like it should. Make sure it is tight. Also, make sure you back straight on to the hoe when hooking up, it will make attachement go alot quicker.
My dealer marked a new line on my fluid level when I added the hoe. He said it will take more fluid, and so I keep it at a higher level. Only problem is that it will sometimes come out the overflow in the summer without the hoe on a steep hill.

It is a great machine and you will be very impressed. I tore down an old barn last summer and used mine to pull out the corner posts of the barn. Very stout piece of equipment.

Good luck, have fun, and be careful.

 

[Slippy]

Oh, one more thing, as with any equipment, I think it is a good idea to make sure you keep grease in the pivot points.

 

[johnsonauto]

Did you go for the 14 gpm pump or the 9 gpm pump? I would say go with the 14 gpm pump if you have not i'm shure Larry would agree.

Scott

 

[BobG_in_VA]

Scott, I was looking at the book and it only showed one PTO pump. Did not notice what the GPM was. He told me the dealer cost was $600. Hope its the "big" one. Can you help me out here with some dealer info? Thanks BobG in VA

 

[johnsonauto]

511 backhoe for "00" series with 14 gpm is part # ati511DPO
511 backhoe for "00" series with 9 gpm is part # ati511DP
You will have to check with your dealer, but i would only go with the 14gpm pump.

Scott

 

[LarryRB]

Two things here. first, the tractor comes with a 7.9 GPM pump or thereabouts. Second thing is, Bradco states openly in their litterature, the 511 needs 11 GPM or more to operate correctly. So why go for the 9GPM which will do nothing more for you? GO for the 14. you won't be sorry.///

 

[Tim_in_IA]

LarryRB,

Just curious where you are getting those pump stats for the 6000. The mahindra site says all the 00 tractors come with an 11GPM pump. I'm getting a 6500 4WD with the Bradco 511 and am planning on using the onboard pump.

 

[LarryRB]

Yes, my mistake, I had the 4110 model and it has the 7.9/ Even though you have onboard 11, to do it again, I would have the separate 14 gpm pto pump..

 

[Slippy]

If you use a pto pump, are the hoe hydrualics then completely seperate from the tractor? If so, that would eleminate the switching that you have to do at the loader valve.

 

[Slippy]

Any idea how much the 14 gpm pump costs?

 

[LarryRB]

I had the 14 pump and it's own hydraulic tank, I think it held about 18 gallons.. Anyway, on its own,. ran much cooler, and stayed separate from the tractor system...

 

[Tim_in_IA]

Slippy,

What kind of switching is needed at the loader? Does the 511 not just use the remotes at the back of the tractor? With the 00 tractors I would think that the pto pump would be an unnecessary cost since the tractor's 11GPM falls on the high side of bradco's 9-12GPM recommendation.

I guess my thoughts on this is that I would see how it worked first with the 11GPM from the tractor and then if it was really sluggish I would pay the $600+ for the PTO pump assembly. From what I have read before the 11GPM was more than adaquate for the average user unless you were using this for a commercial rig. I'll be using mine at home mostly.

 

[Latheman]

The Mahindra 00-series have very small internal hyd reservor. It is barely large enough to run the FEL. To run a BH without quickly overheating the Hyd system, one must use a PTO pump and a seperate hyd. tank. A dealer told me that this design is a throw back to an IH design of the late 60's that Mahindra was licensed to build. This was before FEL and backhoes were as common as they are today.

 

[Tim_in_IA]

Yikes! I don't like the idea of overheating anything on a new tractor! This might seem like a silly question but can the pto pump be used for other applications or is it built into the backhoe? I also want to run log splitters and maybe other attachments. Does it just add another set of remotes?

Thanks for pointing out the heat issue. Never even occured to me!

 

[LarryRB]

As I stated above. separate and cooler.... I should have mentioned minimal oil from the tractor. This said, the system I had, the pump was plumbed to the hydraulic tank direct. The tank is under the seat area, and pump and it's hydro lines have just enough slack to back in to hook up or pull away to unhook. TO convert this for other uses just isn't feasable..

 

[Tim_in_IA]

that's too bad. I just heard back from my dealer and they are changing the order if they can. Had no idea that it was all one unit. Would be nice if some of the literature/website would show this.

My dealer has never installed a backhoe either so they don't really know what to expect either. As it was listed as a seperate option I guess I just assumed that it was a seperate device. Got to quit making asumptions some day /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif.

Thanks again.