M&W Hay rollers

[jwcinpk]

Anyone have any experience with M&W hay rollers? There are a couple dealers here that sell them but I have not heard anything about them good or bad. Does anyone out there own or sell these balers? Tell me about them!

 

[5030]

By "hay rollers" I presume you mean round bailer?

 

[jwcinpk]

Yes I mean round roller. Round baler. I geuss there are several different names for them. I'm looking at buying a new one so am comparing them all. M&W has a enclosed bale chamber which means nearly no dust, chafe, hay to escape. It also rolls the middle into a star shaped wad which is designed to make the hay cure from inside out. Now I know next to nothing about round rollers so I'm just repeating what the sales guy said. I want something reliable. I don't want to buy again for 10 years. I will be pulling it with either a 5500 4x4 Mahindra or a 6000 2wd Mahindra. So throw some suggestions at me. The list on the one I was looking at is $12,550. I will be trading in a very old Ford sqaure baler. He has offered $550 trade in. If I pay cash how much should I expect someone to come down?

 

[5030]

As far as a soft centered bale, I don't think that would have anything to do with the "cure" factor. The hay better be "cured" before you bale it.

That's just sales hype as far as I am concerned. The one advantage to a soft centered bale is that you can spear it easily to move it. Klauus is the only other bailer that I know of that rolls a soft centered bale.

I use a New Holland 638 rounder. I bought it new last year and paid a little under $11,000 for it. It rolls a 4 square bale. We run the smaller bales as we sell to the Amish and they need a bale that they can unroll by hand and that 2 people can move around.

I am not at all familiar with a Manhindra tractor, other than the seat on the tractor is from the dark ages. With a rounder, everything is dependent on PTO horsepower. With a 4 square bailer you need at least 45 PTO.

Whatever the PTO recommendation that MW recommends, you will need at least that. Usually, the recommendation is for haying in ideal conditions. If your moisture climbs or if you are bailing grass type hay or wheat straw, you will need more PTO horsepower.

Understand, with rounds, you will need some equipment to move them and store them. You will need a FEL that's capable of lifting the bale as well as a bale spear and probably a rear mount spear as well.

We store our bales outside under hay tarps, elevated off the ground on pallets.

With the MW, does the price include twine and net wrap? Net wrap is very convenient, but costly, about $1.50 per bale. We twine wrap, not net.

You can also sleeve your bales if you wish. Tarping, however, is a lot cheaper.

 

[cowboydoc]

Daryl,

I've got the variable core design on my JD baler and it is nice. It helps to get tough hay going and also if you have to bale a little moist it will dry much better.

 

[jwcinpk]

I like the soft center deal with the M&W, but I like the fact you are able to roll 4x5 or 4x4 with the Vermeer Rebel. The rebel is a little cheaper too. I'll probably check them all out, but the rebel is in the lead for now.

 

[5030]

Richard:

You have more where-with-all than I do. I do have good credit, especially with Farm Bureau, but I do have to pay it back!!

Maybe I will buy a green one next time. My green MoCo does go well with my orange tractor!!

 

[Woodbeef]

The M&W baler uses the Welger System,just like the old Deutz-Allis roller balers did. They are a good solid baler of the fixed chamber type,but do take more hp than a comparably sized vairable chamber belt type baler. The Welger type balers are easier to use in some cases,plus you do not have the starting troubles,or the need to weave in the swath like some belt balers need. One of the biggest downfalls of that type of balers though is the fact that you are stuck with a 4x5 bale if it is a 4x5 baler,nothing else. Some claim the rollers do not pack as much hay in a bale as some belt types.

 

[5030]

Woodbeef:

I use a little trick I learned from experience when bailing with my 638....
I lay the windrow the approximate width of the pickup, that way, I don't have to weave, besides, I get dizzy. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

 

[HayDR]

Woodbeef,
We have sold thousands of V-Rakes so customers can set their windrows to the width of the baler and no weaving. V-Rakes will rake 6-20 acres an hour, and this is a big time saver.