LS R4041H & Ballast Analyst

[YardBikeBob]

I have a concrete project on the to-do list so I was considering building a 3-pt ballast with any left over mix.

Now I'm wondering just how much ballast I should be shooting for.

Went back to Operator's Manual to find weight information:

	Weight	Notes
LS R4041H	3,615
LL4101 Loader	1,100
72" Bucket	300	Estimated
Operator	250	ditto
Subtotal: Empty Weight	5,265
GVWR	6,631	Op Manual pg 4-18
Available Payload	1,366
1/2 yd of Gravel	1,350	Bucket Capacity 15 cf
Remaining load for Ballast	16

So I guess I don't need the concrete after all.



That ought to do it!

Bob

 

[jaydee325]

Great analysis.:thumbsup:

Many people don't consider that every vehicle has a GVWR. Let alone adhere to it.

Loaded tires would seem to be a must in this case.

 

[Underdog57]

I have a concrete project on the to-do list so I was considering building a 3-pt ballast with any left over mix.

Now I'm wondering just how much ballast I should be shooting for.

Went back to Operator's Manual to find weight information:

	Weight	Notes
LS R4041H	3,615
LL4101 Loader	1,100
72" Bucket	300	Estimated
Operator	250	ditto
Subtotal: Empty Weight	5,265
GVWR	6,631	Op Manual pg 4-18
Available Payload	1,366
1/2 yd of Gravel	1,350	Bucket Capacity 15 cf
Remaining load for Ballast	16

So I guess I don't need the concrete after all.

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That ought to do it!

Bob

Great analysis and great solution! I like your thinking! :drink:

 

[YardBikeBob]

Many people don't consider that every vehicle has a GVWR. Let alone adhere to it.

Loaded tires would seem to be a must in this case.

The Koreans don't use the term GVWR but 'Technical Maximum Permissible Mass'.

So the math works out to a payload of 1,366 pounds yet the tractor is rated to lift something over 2,500 pounds from either end. It's a conundrum where I'm hoping someone smarter than me can explain. They have a 'Restrict Operation' caveat that the front axle has an 'Intermittent Maximum Permissible Load' of 4,393 pounds (1,488 pounds over the 'GVWR' rating for the axle).

Your advise on loaded tires makes a very good point! That weight is on the ground and not on the tractor. Up until now I've always been on the side of 3-pt ballast that would use the rear tires as a fulcrum to unload weight off the front axle. Now I'm less fanatical in my beliefs. I guess that is always good. . .

Thanks for response,

Bob

 

[YardBikeBob]

Great analysis and great solution! I like your thinking! :drink:

Well thanks! Hanging my beverage off the 3-point insures neither of us is over loaded!

Bob

 

[AaronS]

Well thanks! Hanging my beverage off the 3-point insures neither of us is over loaded!

Bob

Ha! Good one!

 

[Guesseral]

Well thanks! Hanging my beverage off the 3-point insures neither of us is over loaded!

Bob

But as the day drags on won't that case weight get lighter and lighter! :shocked::drink:

 

[windcatcher]

Er, I just looked at your rear ballast. Considering you started out on the "light" side, don't you think you need a bit heavier load? Perhaps regular Coors, or at least another case of the Coors Light? :laughing::thumbsup:

 

[YardBikeBob]

Er, I just looked at your rear ballast.

Nah, this looks like another idea that isn't panning out.

The problem with that liquid is that it shifts around too much during the course of the day. It starts off on the 3-point in the morning. Migrates up behind the steering wheel during the heat of the afternoon. And by the end of the day most of the weight is on the ground much like loaded tires. Well, close to them.

All that shifting of the center of gravity makes the tractor steer funny.

Now, beet juice? That crap will last forever.

Bob

 

[windcatcher]

Nah, this looks like another idea that isn't panning out.

The problem with that liquid is that it shifts around too much during the course of the day. It starts off on the 3-point in the morning. Migrates up behind the steering wheel during the heat of the afternoon. And by the end of the day most of the weight is on the ground much like loaded tires. Well, close to them.

All that shifting of the center of gravity makes the tractor steer funny.

Now, beet juice? That crap will last forever.

Bob

Don't you just hate it when that happens? Hopefully it didn't slash in the wrong places.