Low Hour Oil Change

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Snobdds

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So, I bought a New Massey 1710 a year ago this past weekend. However with building a cabin over the summer and fall, I have only put around 18 hours on the tractor. I will be, once again, taking it up to the cabin to continue my build and some tractor specific tasks. My problem I am having is, by the time I put 50 hours on the machine, it will be late summer to early fall. I just don't think I should go an entire year and a half on the factory oil. I am willing to let the hydraulic oil go until then, but the oil I want to change out.

So my question is, does Massey put any special break in additives in the oil that should be kept in there until the 50 hour mark? If there is nothing special in the oil, I may just switch it out to Rotella T6 and change it again at 50 hours. Anyone see any problems with this logic?
 
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The only one I have heard using any breakin oil was JD. I would change oil at least once a year no matter what the hours are. I am a Mobil 1 5w40 fan.
 
   / Low Hour Oil Change #3  
I'm not sure any mfg uses break-in oil anymore.

I don't see anything wrong with changing the oil/filter ahead of time. I think the reasoning is solid.

-R
 
   / Low Hour Oil Change #4  
If your concerned get a Used Oil Analysis. "New" tractors often set on dealer lots for years with the factory oil and extremely low hours.
 
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  • Thread Starter
#5  
Well, that settles it...the factory oil is getting dumped and some fresh is going in.

It's actually kinda embarrassing to know I only put 18 hours on a new tractor. However the task it did complete was critical. Foundation footings, so had to have it.
 
   / Low Hour Oil Change #6  
If it doesn't look milky I would run it. Try to get it to 100 hrs. JD does In fact put break in oil in their tractors and it needs to stay for atleast 100 but not more than 500 hrs for my new tractor. If you add any, it needs to be it. Early oil change can lead to increase oil consumption. These aren't the 70-80s anymore and the oil can go much further. As long as there isn't condensation creating a mess, I'd run it

Brett
 
   / Low Hour Oil Change #7  
You should always drain oil after a year, regardless of hours.

That being said, I personally don't do it.

Like most oil options, it's not going to change your life, either way.
 
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The factory oil is a bit weird looking to me. It's black like a diesel should be, but it's thin and has a translucent quality to it. That's why I thought Massey (Iseki) put in a break in oil in the crankcase.

I think for the small cost of an oil change, it will get some fresh oil for the spring/summer/fall season.
 
   / Low Hour Oil Change #9  
I would run the oil till at least mid summer and get some hours on it. It won't kill anyone if you wait till mid summer and just in case there is break-in oil in there, you got a little more "break-in".

Right now, I bought a Kubota last fall that sat on the dealer's lot for a year and a half. I'm going to get 50 hours on by mid summer and then change it to dino 15W40 on the first change and synthetic after that. I used to change oil every year but now run synthetic and change every other year unless I get the hours on it. My stuff stays in a barn so no wide temp fluctuations and is rarely in the weather.
 
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Changed it on my 1st tractor @ 13 hours. Don't know why. Nuts; I guess. Don't really see why tractor manufacturers specify a 50 hour change for the engine oil/filter. Think absolutely no new cars do this. Normal oil changes from the beginning.

Ralph
 
   / Low Hour Oil Change #12  
If there was break in oil, it wouldn't be a secret, they would say that in the book.

Change to synthetic now, later, or never. It's all good.
 
   / Low Hour Oil Change #13  
Someone posted on here and don't know who, but they said in a nutshell that break-in oil has different properties to make it less slippery so the rings get seated better. That is why leaving it in is important.

Just do what the owners manual says but if the oil has to stay in a little longer that what is comfortable to you it shouldn't be a big deal.
 
   / Low Hour Oil Change #14  
In general, annual engine oil changes are pretty common, regardless of hours. Maybe the oil starts to break down over time once it has been exposed to heat/contaminates.

I personally have never had any issues dumping the factory oil out early. I've also never heard of rings not seating on new engines. Years ago, maybe.
 
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#15  
Maybe I should dump the factory oil and put in fresh new break in oil. Then dump that at 50 hours and go with Rotella.
 
   / Low Hour Oil Change #16  
How many here have had an oil related engine failure?
 
   / Low Hour Oil Change #17  
Maybe I should dump the factory oil and put in fresh new break in oil. Then dump that at 50 hours and go with Rotella.
Whatever you feel comfortable with.
Personally I would just run the factory oil a while longer then switch to the Rotella.
 
   / Low Hour Oil Change #18  
Just relax, and enjoy your tractor.
 
   / Low Hour Oil Change #19  
I think people get to nervous about this stuff. Personally I have had my tractor less than a year and it has 100hrs. Im going to change the oil for the first time next week. Hydraulic Oil will be changed as well. I see no reason to change the oil so soon. I will do it once a year for good measure.
 
   / Low Hour Oil Change #20  
On a new tractor or any engine do it early as per manual . These engines are freshly machined and scuffing off the rough edges . Same with hydraulic and trans systems . After that relax .
 

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