Lost 4X4?

[earljr59]

I hope it just jumped out of gear or wasnt fully engaged on you.When I have busted a ring gear or pinion the noises were immediate.If you are not hearing any new noises it may be something minor. At only 600 hours you should have been safe using the front wheel assist. If there was already damage from the previous use or abuse it was going to happen anyway.It happens when you are using equipment so dont be too hard on yourself.

 

[IronHog]

I hope it just jumped out of gear or wasnt fully engaged on you.When I have busted a ring gear or pinion the noises were immediate.If you are not hearing any new noises it may be something minor. At only 600 hours you should have been safe using the front wheel assist. If there was already damage from the previous use or abuse it was going to happen anyway.It happens when you are using equipment so dont be too hard on yourself.

If you guys could see what I do logging on tractors you'd say I'm crazy.........


Then I put this one in the shop pushing on a 3 foot high bush 5 hours in.....

 

[IronHog]

Dad ran by the shop today and they had the front end out from under the tractor......waiting on parts.

 

[Coyote machine]

Sounds like you missed the problem when it reared it's head: you stated it, (lever) was stuck in 2wd when you looked at the tractor. So what did you do to get it unstuck? Evidently there was something not working prior to you or when you bought the tractor- unfortunately, and now you get to fix what was or now is broken. Hopefully it will be something simple and you'll be back to using your 4x4 feature on the tractor.:thumbsup:

 

[IronHog]

Sounds like you missed the problem when it reared it's head: you stated it, (lever) was stuck in 2wd when you looked at the tractor. So what did you do to get it unstuck? Evidently there was something not working prior to you or when you bought the tractor- unfortunately, and now you get to fix what was or now is broken. Hopefully it will be something simple and you'll be back to using your 4x4 feature on the tractor.:thumbsup:

The shop we bought it from got it unstuck prior to purchase.

There are multiple threads here about the old linkage style transfer case shifter being stiff.........it worked fine after they got some lube on it........


In retrospect the only red flag was the bolts were missing from the left front wheel with only the studs holding the wheel on when we first looked at the tractor......the shop added the proper bolts before we took delivery. Everything checked out with the steering and 4X4 when I did the initial once over.

 

[WilliamBos]

So are CUTS really not designed to perform work in 4X4? I've looked at some of the smaller tractors that obviously were for yard type work, but Kioti seems to build a real tractor.
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You did no wrong by using it for the purpose it was built. We had the same thing happen on our 1523, snap ring popped off, tractor had to be split, but warranty covered it. They said it was a freak occurance, and that was the response Tech gave the when they called on warranty.

Hopefully it is not too expensive for you.

 

[Coyote machine]

The shop we bought it from got it unstuck prior to purchase.

There are multiple threads here about the old linkage style transfer case shifter being stiff.........it worked fine after they got some lube on it........


In retrospect the only red flag was the bolts were missing from the left front wheel with only the studs holding the wheel on when we first looked at the tractor......the shop added the proper bolts before we took delivery. Everything checked out with the steering and 4X4 when I did the initial once over.

If there was an issue with the front end when you were looking at it is there any warranty from the shop you bought it from regarding the left front wheel and the missing studs- evidently somebody knew something about what was happening prior to your purchase- no?

 

[IronHog]

If there was an issue with the front end when you were looking at it is there any warranty from the shop you bought it from regarding the left front wheel and the missing studs- evidently somebody knew something about what was happening prior to your purchase- no?

I'm not sure how anyone would know.....the tractor performed flawlessly for 5 tach hours.

I don't think the tractor had been in 4X4 for some time....the underside was far too clean to have seen much rough use or mud. I put more wear on the paint underneath the tractor in 3 days than it had received in 5 years........


Probably just a bad luck situation........what you get into trying to buy a cheap tractor.

 

[Coyote machine]

I'm not saying you would know there was a problem necessarily, but it seems someone from the shop you bought it from might have been aware of some issue. Did you buy from a tractor or Kioti tractor dealer?
Did they extend you a 30 day or some # of hours warranty?

 

[IronHog]

"Gear" broke in the front end. Guy at the shop said the replacement part appeared to be much higher quality.


Going to pick her up tomorrow and get back to work.

 

[Coyote machine]

"Gear" broke in the front end. Guy at the shop said the replacement part appeared to be much higher quality.


Going to pick her up tomorrow and get back to work.

Sounds like a fairly quick fix once the problem was found.
Can you find out if the new gear is a superseded part number which might have been a warranty repair originally- it might help others who run into the problem going forward to know what the part number is....

Hopefully the entire repair didn't cost too much, and if you can say what did it run to do it complete?

Thanks, and good luck going forward...

 

[IronHog]

Sounds like a fairly quick fix once the problem was found.
Can you find out if the new gear is a superseded part number which might have been a warranty repair originally- it might help others who run into the problem going forward to know what the part number is....

Hopefully the entire repair didn't cost too much, and if you can say what did it run to do it complete?

Thanks, and good luck going forward...

Not sure till I pick it up.

Dad bought the parts and the shop put them in at their expense.

 

[IronHog]

$130....not too bad

 

[Mousefield]

$130....not too bad

Boy, I'll say. $130.00 is honestly not a lot considering they put in a new gear.
:thumbsup:

 

[IronHog]

Boy, I'll say. $130.00 is honestly not a lot considering they put in a new gear.
:thumbsup:

They didn't charge for labor since it only made it 5 hours

I'm sure he still did well on the sale.

 

[Coyote machine]

They didn't charge for labor since it only made it 5 hours*

I'm sure he still did well on the sale.

*That's good will on their part!:thumbsup:

So is the gear a new part number or is it exactly the same as the original one?

 

[IronHog]

*That's good will on their part!:thumbsup:

So is the gear a new part number or is it exactly the same as the original one?

Not sure the owner was in full sale mode with a guy when I went to pick up the tractor so I didn't talk to him.


Ran it for 30 minutes this afternoon......4X4 seems to pull better, but that could just be in my head.


Still a couple bugs to work out.........4X4 shifter is still waaaay too stiff and the valve that controls the loader arms popped off when I tried to use the detent on the loader (think the allen head screws are loose)

 

[IronHog]

Returned today to finish pushing the bush....


Turns out there was a pine stump right beside the bush.......hung it again today and it loaded the front of the tractor....fast.


This time nothing broke and the tractor performed well. Besides the loud gears I'd say flawless.

 

[earljr59]

Good updates and good luck with your tractor. Nice to be back in the saddle again!

 

[Highbeam]

FWA vs. 4wd. It's just BS. Your tractor has four wheel drive. Use it like a four wheel drive tractor, that's what it is.