Looking at ls xj2025h

tomplum · May 13, 2017

The hydraulics have a bit of a learning curve as they are so responsive. Kubotas are too slow , these too quick. What are ya gonna do...Think about what could affect the ride. I have a camera monitor and cell phone cradle mounted on mine on a custom bracket off the loader control. So the coming off a low idle is noticeable. It can shake the phone holder nicely. But then again - there isn't a reason at all to run it at that low of an idle. Kudos to you for getting on the beasts and seeing what works for you. Post back on your Kioti comparison.

DaveNJ · May 13, 2017

tomplum said:
The hydraulics have a bit of a learning curve as they are so responsive. Kubotas are too slow , these too quick. What are ya gonna do...Think about what could affect the ride. I have a camera monitor and cell phone cradle mounted on mine on a custom bracket off the loader control. So the coming off a low idle is noticeable. It can shake the phone holder nicely. But then again - there isn't a reason at all to run it at that low of an idle. Kudos to you for getting on the beasts and seeing what works for you. Post back on your Kioti comparison.

Agree that the hydraulics on anything is a learning curve. I rented Kubotas occaisionly in my former business and have nothing bad to say about the b26 or bx that I used- there's a reason why many rental companies offer them. I went with LS because of the bigger bang for the buck, things like standard SSQA and pricing. With either tractor it takes at least a few days operation to be marginally competent with a loader or backhoe. A lot more than that to have it feel like an extension of your hand. Having operated both extensively, my impression is that tomplum is correct, that the LS is quicker but that's not always a good thing until you get used to it and operation becomes second nature.

Bigbertha72 · May 14, 2017

Well I haven't test drove either. But I was out near RCO and figured we would swing by. They were already closed (I knew that they would be) but luckily they had a few tractors sitting out (looked like they were in for work or demos). They had a xj20 25 sitting out back and that's definitely the size we want. My wife is convincing me that the backhoe is worth getting. I will say I didn't realize how much of a subframe was on the backhoe. How hard and how fast is it to unhook and hook? I know the first few times would take longer but once you get a system down how quick before it's unhooked and you drove off it?

DaveNJ · May 14, 2017

I would want a heavy subframe for a backhoe on a small tractor. Removal is easy and toolless: Disconnect the two locking pins on the subframe and support the hoe with the bucket and the stabilizer arms. Pull the tractor out a bit and disconnect the hydraulics and the wire for the hoe worklight. It takes about 15 min. after the first time. Reverse procedure to reinstall but add extra time for cursing because realignment to hooks and pin holes can be a bear, especially if the ground isn't level. I'm considering making a movable dolly for the hoe as others have done on this forum to make reinstallation easier.

Bigbertha72 · May 16, 2017

Thanks, doesn't sound like to bad of a job.

Bigbertha72 · May 17, 2017

Also, I know the loader lift capacity is 1270lbs, minus the weight of the attachments to lift. What's realistic weight I could unload with forks? I know it's limited on its curling weight, but what weight could I unload from a freight height deck? I'm thinking 700-800lbs would be max.

tomplum · May 17, 2017

For my tractor, that would be a tall order. If what was being unloaded was close to the rack on the forks, you would have a much better chance than an evenly stacked pallet. I've not unloaded a truck w/ mine. I do have some pallets stacked with a few rows of pavers. This thread shows the capabilities of mine. I was hoping someone else would run similar tests so that I would have something to compare to, but no takers. http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...375591-xj2025h-loader-w-forks-question-2.html

Bigbertha72 · May 20, 2017

Thanks for the link, I'll try and do a similar test when I finally get one.

Bigbertha72 · May 20, 2017

Also, for the people with the backhoe. Did you go with the 9in or a larger bucket? RCO "includes" the 9in bucket. I think I'd rather have a 12in but not sure if it digs better with the 9in.

tomplum · May 21, 2017

Ours has the 12. My reasoning was that a more narrow bucket maybe hard to release the soil if you are working in a wet area. Correct or not? Our dealer gave us three options, which I don't think affected the price.