Logging on someone else’s ground.

[dodge man]

This is a friend of a friend thing. He owns 128 acres and an adjoiner had his ground logged and they cut a few trees over the line. One in particular a good sized walnut. This 128 acre tract of ground has been surveyed and is in CREP. CREP ground is in permanent set aside, as in forever, no farming, no logging no mowing, you can hunt on it and ride around but that’s about it. They found a couple of corners and it seems there is little doubt it was logged over the line. The trees are near the boundary also, within a few feet of it. I’m not sure how many trees we’re talking about but maybe half a dozen.

This happened about 1 1/2 years ago. This corner of the ground is pretty remote so he just discovered it. In Illinois it’s triple damages for logging on someone else. Of course he didn’t see them do it but that may or may not be relevant. The local conservation office is helping by determining the value of the trees. They could in theory pursue charges for logging on the set aside ground but I bet they don’t.

Anybody have any experience in something like this?

 

[anomad]

I've been close to similar situations, but not on my land. I'd report it to state authorities and see if they pursued it. I don't know what CREP is? I'll look that up.

 

[Lineman North Florida]

A neighbor had his placed logged a number of years ago back before my dad passed and the loggers cut over the line probably 40 or 50 feet, he and I rode around there and talked to the neighbor and he said he would get them stopped in the morning when they came back and would make it right monetarily and was very apologetic , dad told him not to worry about it just to get them stopped from coming any farther. If you have good neighbors try being understanding because the shoe can always be on the other foot.

 

[dodge man]

CREP=conservation reserve enhancement program. CRP is common and is set aside ground(no farming) and has a time limit, usually a few years. You get paid not to farm it. The CREP was generally for watershed ground to keep silt out of rivers and the owners got a lump sum payment and additional payments over a period of several years. The ground is to never be farmed again.

I’m a retired land surveyor and did 40 to 60 of these CREP surveys, some pretty large. One land owner said the government payments was quite a bit more then he paid for the ground.

 

[jyoutz]

There is actually no excuse for this. A timber sale should always have the boundaries marked before operations start. Flagging as a minimum, more typically paint marking. However prepared the sale is negligent.

 

[anomad]

CREP=conservation reserve enhancement program. CRP is common and is set aside ground(no farming) and has a time limit, usually a few years. You get paid not to farm it. The CREP was generally for watershed ground to keep silt out of rivers and the owners got a lump sum payment and additional payments over a period of several years. The ground is to never be farmed again.

I’m a retired land surveyor and did 40 to 60 of these CREP surveys, some pretty large. One land owner said the government payments was quite a bit more then he paid for the ground.

Gotcha, I am very familiar with CRP from living in dust bowl states. Just hadn't heard of CREP. Thanks for explaining.