Okay, someone please enlighten this dimwitted Swede. If dragging a log from above the axle can lead to flip-overs, how is it that the logging winches are safer? they are hanging the logs from way above the draw bar and axle, so what gives? I'm obviously missing part of the equation.
Joe
That's a good question, I'll try to respond to it before the paranoia crowd see this thread and the over-the-axle/under-the-axle battle starts.
To my sheltered way of thinking, common sense is the best tool in the box. Most, but not all flip-overs are caused by the log hanging down behind the tractor and hooking into a root, a stump, or something like that. If it's suspended from a point above the axle, the tractor will tend to rotate around the anchor point, which means the front gets very light and often comes off the ground. If you're not quick on the brakes or clutch, it can go right over backwards.
The advantage of the winch or "plate" like I have and the one Wallenstein sells, is that the butt of the log is tucked up behind the plate where it can't hook into something solid and flip the tractor. The only real resistance is friction caused by the weight of the log tip dragging behind the tractor.
Logs should be limbed quite clean to be hauled safely this way, and their weight has to be in safe relation to the tractor. That's where common sense comes into the equation. If the log weighs more than the tractor does and the front end is light on the ground, adding resistance from friction may be enough to get the front wheels off the ground.
After taking all this into consideration, logging is a dangerous business even when you're careful. I've learned to take my time both cutting and hauling, two trips are usually safer than one if in doubt.
A tractor with 3 point winch is a second choice to a dedicated skidder, although they can be safe enough to use if you recognize the dangers.
Sean
