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Not too familiar with little ATV's but If I'm allowed to recommend an insurance company. I have insured my motorcycle for years and since 2003 I insured my Polaris sportsman 400 4x4 ATV with Markel Ins. Co. 2 locations in Pewaukee, Wi. and in Evanston, Il.They seem reasonably priced to me. Their toll free # is 1-800-236-2453
George
 
/ Little ATV #22  
Jim,
Since you already got the ATV's, mind if we talk insurance/registration for a minute?

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Brian,

Just to clarify, I am an insurance agent (in PA), a CIC (Certified Insurance Counselor) to boot. Of the 6 insurance companies we represent that write homeowners insurance, NONE will add ATV's onto the HO policy. Only exception to that is that one company will add both liability and physical damage coverage onto a FARMOWNER policy. However, that same company will not add them to a homeowners policy.
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Don,

Glad to have you here to see if I'm on track. As I understand it, here's how it went (in PA). Prior to 10/1/03 no ATV's required registration/insurance. A new law went into effect on that date that required both. Once a vehicle is registered, it is no longer allowed on a homeowners policy. In other states that don't require registration, if it is utilitarian type ATV it "can" be added to a homeowners policy.

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( As for title and registration, did you get a title for the RTV? I did not, nor did the dealer give me any registration paperwork, which I believe is required when selling an ATV. I don't have any paperwork which would make me think I need to treat the RTV any different than I do my JD 855 as far as insurance and registration goes. From a pure technical standpoint, I don't believe I can legally drive my JD on public highways. I do, and I've been passed by lots of State Police while doing it. My guess is that if I'm putting up the road in my RTV with the spray rig in the back, they'll beep and wave as they go by.... Only time will tell.)</font>

OK, title/registration/insurance on the RTV....

Yes, PA does consider it an ATV and it does need title/registration/insurance.

To get a title:
Go to the ATV section of the DMV web site (access through www.state.pa.us).
There's an application form available online. Print it and fill in the blanks. Attach a copy of your bill of sale. NOTE: If the bill of sale doesn't have the full VIN (they normally only put the serial # on the receipt), take a picture of the VIN plate on the RTV and include. (VIN is above the battery).

When you fill in the blanks, you'll also fill out the section for registration/plates (and pay the $). A couple weeks later, you'll get a license plate, title, registration sticker. All you need now is insurance.

Brian
 
/ Little ATV #24  
Good info Brian. I'll do a little more digging on my side next week in the office.

After reading the DCNR page though, I'm not going to register mine, as I did buy it to use here on our little hobby farm. If I decide to drive it to the office some morning, I'll make sure I have the hedgetrimmers, shovel, rake, etc. to maintain the office...... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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We are a little disappointed /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif and a little worried /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif that the ATVs aren't here yet. I talked to them today and they were supposed to be shipped today and be here tomorrow. They claimed they had trouble getting them - even though they had told me they had them in stock. The credit card was charged on the 10th. If it isn't here tomorrow, I'll be disputing it to the credit card co, but I'm trying to be paitent and optimistic.

Question for you Brian,

The wife went to the Harley/Suzuki/Honda shop in town today. They had never heard of the "growing helmets" /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Do you have any more info?
 
/ Little ATV #26  
Not good about not getting them yet.

For the helmet, I can't recall my daughter's particular model but check out www.vegahelmet.com.
Hers is a full face.

We got it at the local motorcycle/ATV store.

Brian
 
/ Little ATV #27  
Jim,

Too tired to post/look into it last night.
OK, here's what I found.
It appears my daughter has the Mojave PV. From their main menu, use the pullodown for "Off Road Helmet" and select that one.

From their page:
"Removable liner system for easy cleaning - 7 sizes (XS, S, M) (L, XL, XXL, XXXL) interchangeable."

The small 3 sizes and large 4 are interchangable. My daughter currently runs the S so all I need to do is buy a new M shell when it starts getting tight.

Brian
 
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Do you know if there is any difference in a Mojave PV and a Mojave PV Jr.? The PV Jr. just comes in XS, S, & M where as the PV comes in XS, S, M & then L, XL, XXL, XXXL. I'm assuming the same thing just grouped on the site differently. I'm going now to go look to see if I can find a dealer close.
 
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Woohoo, I just spoke with the shipping company - not the seller - they are to be delivered today. I'll be heading out here shortly so I can go play....er....get them set up for the kids. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Man, I'm feeling a whole lot better now.
 
/ Little ATV #30  
When you get them prepped & out & about, post a pic or 2......Along with a short review....My kids might need an upgrade............Thanks..........
 
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OK, time for me to play show & tell. Got the ATVs home. Took a little bit to get them uncrated and get them "road" ready. Not a lot to do, but uncrating, raise the handle bars, connect the battery, and check oil & gas. Took a little bit to get them started. The fuel shut off isn't labeled which way is off/on. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif Was trying to start the first one w/o gas. Finally figured that out. Then it took a little bit to get all of the "air" out of the carb. Once I did that, that little 4-stroke start quick and ran smooth. I was really surprised by that.

Here is a side picture of my daughter's. We still have to put the decals on both of them. That is my wife's job for today. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 

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A couple of little problems. I'm going to call here in a little bit and talk to them to see what suggestions they have.

First, once you adjust the throttle down to a safe speed, w/ the automatic transmission they don't have enough power to get moving from even a small incline. As you can tell my yard is pretty flat and that is the type of incline I'm talking. Lossen the throttle and it'll go - unfortunately way too fast. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif Second, are the brakes. Both levers work OK, both are pushing fluid to the caliper, but the pads don't seem like they want to move. I thought maybe they just needed bled, but that didn't seem to cure the problem.

Here is a front 3/4 view of my daughter's.
 

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Once they get going they go pretty well. They are pretty quiet. Almost as quiet as the battery operated PowerWheels. Nice headlight on the front w/ high/low beam. Nice LED brakelight. Just wish it had some type of normal taillight. Might rig something up in my spare time. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif.

Here is my son looking all mean and ready to go.
 

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Now he is just showing off.
 

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Hfere are both of them out in the yard "passing"
 

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We did have one little incident last night. While I was still trying to get the throttle adjusted down. My daughter got a little carried away and was on the gas pretty hard and tried to do a sharp turn. She upset it. Couldn't get it shut down fast enough. Had we even been using the rear lanyard kill switch, still couldn't have gotten it shut down fast enough. Wasn't hurt, but it scared her. She didn't want to get back on for a few minutes, she just kept mumbling, "I should've gotten a horse, that wouldn't have happened." Tried to tell her about bucking, kicking, and biting. Good thing was she wasn't hurt and it scared her enough so that now she respects it. My son also saw it and scared him so that he also has some respect for it. Not that I want my kids hurt, but sometimes they just have to learn not to do things the hard way.

Here she is after the accident, looking like she is getting ready to race again. Though I've now got it governed down pretty good.
 

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Have have a shot of her posing.
 

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Since they don't have a reverse, here is my son "backing" it up so that it doesn't hit my truck - at least I think it is still mine as the wife usually drives it. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 

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/ Little ATV #39  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( was on the gas pretty hard and tried to do a sharp turn. )</font>

My 4 year tossed herself off of her Suzuki 50 trying to do a donut! That was the last time she tried that. SHe fell off, the ATV went back down on all four tires. She was off the ground and chasing after it before it even came to a complete stop.
 
/ Little ATV #40  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Do you know if there is any difference in a Mojave PV and a Mojave PV Jr.? The PV Jr. just comes in XS, S, & M where as the PV comes in XS, S, M & then L, XL, XXL, XXXL. I'm assuming the same thing just grouped on the site differently. I'm going now to go look to see if I can find a dealer close. )</font>

Jim,

I don't know the difference but something to watch out for is the weight of the helmet. If the helmet can be lined to a size an adult could wear, it may be too heavy for a child. It is interesting to watch though... They can't keep their head upright for more than a couple minutes.

Brian
 

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