jix
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Hi Again, Eddie:
You have your work cut out for you in finding both moose and Black Bear in the same general area. As I am sure that you know that Moose and Black bear clash in that Black bears prey upon moose calves, so moose try to avoid areas where black bears are plentiful. About 40 % of moose calf mortality is due to Black bear predation. Moose like scrubby browse, Black bears like big trees. These two classes of vegetation do not always occur in the same general area. Black bears also avoid brown and grizzly bear populations because the griz will kill the black bear cubs as a matter of course. In some areas of Alaska, there have been attemps to increase moose populations by crushing the forest under big Letourneau machines so to increase the quality of moose browse (see Google). This works but the black bear do not like areas without big trees for their cubs to seek refuge in. It would follow that places where there are natural occurences of both types of vegetation bordering each other would be the best candidates for combined hunts. Trophy moose are nor rare in Alaska but they are choosey as to terrain and vegetation.
Outfitters know these facts and those with bush-type aircraft would be better candidates than others to scope out the animals you wish to hunt. Black bears do hibernate and are very active feeding near the Alaskan fall season, and moose are often in the rut at that same time, hence you are probably looking at a September hunt. As your strategy favours an outfitter with aircraft you are very likely to succeed in a multi-species hunt for Black bear and Moose. As you have apparently concluded, an outfitter such as you mentioned in your recent post favors your chances for success.
The photo of Karen And that HUGE bear is quite impressive, but Karens lovely smile leaves me favoring the Black bear conquest over the moose. Your mommy didn't raise no fools, Eddie
This discussion leaves me with renewed appreciation for my local terrain, where both moose and black bear are often seen close by my house, in fact, in my dooryard. I do not bother either species however. the government regulations are just to restrictive to bother with hunting. Moose meat, is delicious above all wild meat around here, possibly excepting ruffed grouse, or partridge as they are sometimes called. Those birds are often seen on my land scrounging for wild oats, but I have never shot one. I prefer just to watch them scratching for seed. White tail does are also very common...they get hit by cars at night on the highway a lot and cause much automobile damage. Deer here know that it is illegal to shoot within 100 metres of a dwelling, so they are common in yards. Bucks are very scarce because our deer hunts are for Bucks only, so Bucks are very wary animals. I have only seen two buck deer while afoot in the woods in three years. Not boone and crockett scale trophies either..maybe eight points is as big as I have seen. Our Moose season is by licence draw (Bulls only)..and three days long. Not worth my time. Our First nation folks ( Indians) have the hunting sewn up, they hunt wherever, for whatever they like, whenever they choose. Guess who gets the wild meat? Ditto the wild salmon and trout....and they pay no taxes.
ullinghair:
You have your work cut out for you in finding both moose and Black Bear in the same general area. As I am sure that you know that Moose and Black bear clash in that Black bears prey upon moose calves, so moose try to avoid areas where black bears are plentiful. About 40 % of moose calf mortality is due to Black bear predation. Moose like scrubby browse, Black bears like big trees. These two classes of vegetation do not always occur in the same general area. Black bears also avoid brown and grizzly bear populations because the griz will kill the black bear cubs as a matter of course. In some areas of Alaska, there have been attemps to increase moose populations by crushing the forest under big Letourneau machines so to increase the quality of moose browse (see Google). This works but the black bear do not like areas without big trees for their cubs to seek refuge in. It would follow that places where there are natural occurences of both types of vegetation bordering each other would be the best candidates for combined hunts. Trophy moose are nor rare in Alaska but they are choosey as to terrain and vegetation.
Outfitters know these facts and those with bush-type aircraft would be better candidates than others to scope out the animals you wish to hunt. Black bears do hibernate and are very active feeding near the Alaskan fall season, and moose are often in the rut at that same time, hence you are probably looking at a September hunt. As your strategy favours an outfitter with aircraft you are very likely to succeed in a multi-species hunt for Black bear and Moose. As you have apparently concluded, an outfitter such as you mentioned in your recent post favors your chances for success.
The photo of Karen And that HUGE bear is quite impressive, but Karens lovely smile leaves me favoring the Black bear conquest over the moose. Your mommy didn't raise no fools, Eddie
This discussion leaves me with renewed appreciation for my local terrain, where both moose and black bear are often seen close by my house, in fact, in my dooryard. I do not bother either species however. the government regulations are just to restrictive to bother with hunting. Moose meat, is delicious above all wild meat around here, possibly excepting ruffed grouse, or partridge as they are sometimes called. Those birds are often seen on my land scrounging for wild oats, but I have never shot one. I prefer just to watch them scratching for seed. White tail does are also very common...they get hit by cars at night on the highway a lot and cause much automobile damage. Deer here know that it is illegal to shoot within 100 metres of a dwelling, so they are common in yards. Bucks are very scarce because our deer hunts are for Bucks only, so Bucks are very wary animals. I have only seen two buck deer while afoot in the woods in three years. Not boone and crockett scale trophies either..maybe eight points is as big as I have seen. Our Moose season is by licence draw (Bulls only)..and three days long. Not worth my time. Our First nation folks ( Indians) have the hunting sewn up, they hunt wherever, for whatever they like, whenever they choose. Guess who gets the wild meat? Ditto the wild salmon and trout....and they pay no taxes.
ullinghair:
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