Flail Mower Let's talk flail mowers

   / Let's talk flail mowers #3,771  
In the vein of Flails for pasture, I have around 75ac that will be needing mowing next summer.

If the ground is truly that smooth, the JD 390 might surprise you.
Your travel speed will be very high, compared to trying to pull a 16 foot wide behemoth.

Mow with the 390 at 8MPH rather than the large mower at 4MPH, the 390 will out-mow the large mower.

Just my thought on the mower,,, I would never consider such a large machine for only 75 acres.
We had a mower like that for corn stalks, but, 125HP was barely enough. We were cutting 5-600 acres.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #3,772  
I'm loving my flail before and after pics
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   / Let's talk flail mowers #3,775  
In the vein of Flails for pasture, I have around 75ac that will be needing mowing next summer. I was merely going to get a batwing, since here in Northern KY, that is what everyone is using for horse pastures. But I began thinking about a flail mower. Since I am NOT going to spend all day mowing... I want something with at least a 15ft width. I have a 100hp JD 5100e which should have the required power for at least a 15-20ft mower for using in this regard. (Im not brush hogging things... just mowing pastures.)

I am spending my time, insuring the smoothness of the pastures is as good as possible. They are already soybean fields, so they are pretty good. But I am smoothing them even more with my new dirt equipment.

About the biggest flail mower I have seen is 84-96". This just won't cut it for a pasture mower, at least not this much. But... I have seen 'row crop shredders' which are long enough... but I suspect they are quite a bit different than a 'flail grass mower'. I wouldn't have a problem changing out blades. Does anyone know what that difference really is and could I realistically 'alter' one of these tow-behind flails to work as a good quality mowing machine? I'm skeptical, because I suspect if they were that good, someone in the farms around me would be using one. But they are all stuck on rotary cutters. I know some require bigger HP than my tractor, but I suspect if it is a reasonable thought, I can find one which would be suitable. I'm looking to get something used... but the following site has an explanation of what I am basically talking about.

ROW CROP SHREDDERS | Rhino

There are options for you
Gemella - Folding Flail Mower
Iowa Farm Equipment -- Peruzzo Triflex Series Flail Mowers

There are probably others that someone will mention.

Iowa Farm Equipment are good folks too.
 
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   / Let's talk flail mowers #3,777  
In the vein of Flails for pasture, I have around 75ac that will be needing mowing next summer. I was merely going to get a batwing, since here in Northern KY, that is what everyone is using for horse pastures. But I began thinking about a flail mower. Since I am NOT going to spend all day mowing... I want something with at least a 15ft width. I have a 100hp JD 5100e which should have the required power for at least a 15-20ft mower for using in this regard. (Im not brush hogging things... just mowing pastures.)

I am spending my time, insuring the smoothness of the pastures is as good as possible. They are already soybean fields, so they are pretty good. But I am smoothing them even more with my new dirt equipment.

About the biggest flail mower I have seen is 84-96". This just won't cut it for a pasture mower, at least not this much. But... I have seen 'row crop shredders' which are long enough... but I suspect they are quite a bit different than a 'flail grass mower'. I wouldn't have a problem changing out blades. Does anyone know what that difference really is and could I realistically 'alter' one of these tow-behind flails to work as a good quality mowing machine? I'm skeptical, because I suspect if they were that good, someone in the farms around me would be using one. But they are all stuck on rotary cutters. I know some require bigger HP than my tractor, but I suspect if it is a reasonable thought, I can find one which would be suitable. I'm looking to get something used... but the following site has an explanation of what I am basically talking about.

ROW CROP SHREDDERS | Rhino



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Hello Dadnatron,

NO, they are no different than flail mowers used for grass mowing period! They are built stronger for shredding crops like cotton stubble, Sugar Beet Topping, sugar cane stubble, pineapple stubble and potato vines among others.

Mowing or topping as it is referred to can be done at a two inch cutting height either seasonally or on a continuous mowing schedule and is typically done to prevent damage to grass crops by mowing them short for the winter season.


There is no need to waste your money on a batwing rotary cutter at all.
Your mule has plenty of power for a flail shredder with either scoop knives or side slicers.

You can purchase a wide cut orchard/vineyard shredder from Vrisimo and others.


The maintenance is not big a deal nor is changing side slicers or scoop knives for crop shredders or flail mowers Do not let anyone tell you different.

I cant help that the folks around you invest in rotary cutters but I will eliminate any worry you have about flail crop shredders/flail mowers.

You can purchase flail mowers that are wider than 8 feet in cut with the blink of an eye my friend, that is not an issue, ever.

NOW you can invest in new or new excess new inventory or buying in the off season by checking with the Vrisimo folks in California and the Hiniker corporate folks in Minnesota if they have a new or used rebuilt wide flail crop shredder to sell.


If you want a 15 foot flail shredder you can purchase a HINIKER flail crop shredder and add a rear towing kit and running lights option and the flail mower will be smaller in width than a road lane of 8 feet and pass through 8 foot farm gates as well.

Used flail crop shredders are offered for sale and buying from a dealer or a farm dispersal auction is the best way. Saying that new flail shredders come up for sale through tractor house and other advertisers as well as excess inventory.
(they have real bargains at times)

In a smaller example the Vrisimo SC1120 is a 10 foot cut flail mower with side slicers or scoop knives and only requires 40 to 60 horse power and your mule has plenty of power for it and mows from 0-6 inches in cutting height.


Please ask more questions as needed.
 
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   / Let's talk flail mowers #3,778  
In the vein of Flails for pasture, I have around 75ac that will be needing mowing next summer. I was merely going to get a batwing, since here in Northern KY, that is what everyone is using for horse pastures. But I began thinking about a flail mower. Since I am NOT going to spend all day mowing... I want something with at least a 15ft width. I have a 100hp JD 5100e which should have the required power for at least a 15-20ft mower for using in this regard. (Im not brush hogging things... just mowing pastures.)

I am spending my time, insuring the smoothness of the pastures is as good as possible. They are already soybean fields, so they are pretty good. But I am smoothing them even more with my new dirt equipment.

About the biggest flail mower I have seen is 84-96". This just won't cut it for a pasture mower, at least not this much. But... I have seen 'row crop shredders' which are long enough... but I suspect they are quite a bit different than a 'flail grass mower'. I wouldn't have a problem changing out blades. Does anyone know what that difference really is and could I realistically 'alter' one of these tow-behind flails to work as a good quality mowing machine? I'm skeptical, because I suspect if they were that good, someone in the farms around me would be using one. But they are all stuck on rotary cutters. I know some require bigger HP than my tractor, but I suspect if it is a reasonable thought, I can find one which would be suitable. I'm looking to get something used... but the following site has an explanation of what I am basically talking about.

ROW CROP SHREDDERS | Rhino

In our area, most of the ag is orchards. Flail mowers are used exclusively. I use a 12' Vrisimo. I think they go to about 15' width as a single mower. Beyond that they have combination sort of flails, but that's another subject.

As much as I like my flail, I think for the occasional pasture mowing, a batwing is hard to beat.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #3,779  
As much as I like my flail, I think for the occasional pasture mowing, a batwing is hard to beat.

Why do you say this? That is one of the questions I have.

I will have to mow around 10-12 times a year. I like the idea of a flail, whether that is with the 3 -flail floating version like offered by Iowa Farm Equipment or a repurposed crop shredder. As I've thought about it, the one downside I can foresee is a solid (non-flexible) mower 15-20ft resulting in (high/low) spots, regardless of how smooth I can make it. My pasture will still roll. That is certainly a positive for the 3 shorter flail mower.

But all in all... why do you think it's hard to beat a rotary batwing?
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #3,780  
If I may,

The roller of the flail mower regulates the mowing height on "smaller flail mowers".

The rear tires on the Hiniker 1700 and AR2000 regulate the mowing height using
the mowers hydraulic cylinders. The wide crop flail shredders are flexible from the
point of a flail shredders "mowing height only". They have to have rigid body to maintain the center line
of the flail mowers rotor and side weldments which make the entire mower a one piece unit with a high
strength body in one piece with the tubular steel weldments attached to the front and rear of the flail mower.

The large crop shredders are different are made by INO in Europe have two or three sections along with several mowing configurations and fold up to allow road travel and to pass through farm gates.
The same system is used on other larger flail mowers as using a rear roller for
crop shredders is a waste of money for the end user as the tubular steel used to
support and strengthen the flail mower shroud with the side weldments just as
is done on the model 1700 and the AR2000 flail shredders from Hiniker.

The flail shredders tires will always follow the contour of the pasture land you have.

A wide flail mowers rear roller used in grass mowing will be regulated by the
rear roller which also follows the contours of the land.

Vrisimo also offers a front tire option mounted on caster of sorts to attach to its
integral three point hitch flail mowers if desired to have 4 plus tires on their flail mowers.

If you want your pasture to have a 2 inch haircut a wide flail shredder with side slicers
will do the job without a wimper for you.

You just have to decide if you want a grooming mower or a crop shredder that will mow at 2 inches all the time every time and have fewer parts to deal with compared to a grooming mower with three rear rollers and additional drive components versus the Hiniker 1700 or AR2000 crop shredders in the example.
 
 

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